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23rd January – 7th June 2009
 
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<small><small>Source: [http://au.figu.org/god_delusion.html au.figu.org/god_delusion.html], see [[God-delusion and God-delusion Insanity]] - ''“not right to forbid”''</small></small>
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<small><small>Source: [http://au.figu.org/god_delusion.html au.figu.org/god_delusion.html], see [[God-delusion and God-delusion Insanity]] - ''“not right to forbid” -not right to participate''</small></small>
 
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==What are five important aspects regarding Earth religions?==
 
==What are five important aspects regarding Earth religions?==
 
<small>Source: [[Contact Report 031]]</small>
 
<small>Source: [[Contact Report 031]]</small>
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# Every aspect of spiritual evolution is blocked by these religions, making any genuine progress impossible.<ref>[[Contact Report 31]]</ref>  
 
# Every aspect of spiritual evolution is blocked by these religions, making any genuine progress impossible.<ref>[[Contact Report 31]]</ref>  
 
# Our religions still contain some real worth, but this becomes so overshadowed that only a few people are able to see any effective truth in them.<ref>[[Contact Report 31]]</ref>
 
# Our religions still contain some real worth, but this becomes so overshadowed that only a few people are able to see any effective truth in them.<ref>[[Contact Report 31]]</ref>
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(FOM Note: In United Kingdom (and other countries) it's a criminal offence were someone to attack you physically or verbally because of your religion or belief, or for that matter because of your lack of religion e.g. Atheism. Someone is also committing a criminal offence if they 'stir up' hatred of a particular religious group. This doesn't mean you can't still talk about it honestly and openly, just keep the talk amongst the right company, know when to close your mouth, don't let the conversation spill over into the street, sort of thing. See references to '''Silent revolution of truth''' and '''Quiet revolution of truth''')
 
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==FIGU Forum, Questions Answered by Billy==
 
==FIGU Forum, Questions Answered by Billy==
 
<small>Source: [http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/1871.html?1406318762 forum.figu.org: Your Questions to Billy Meier - Answered (External)]</small>
 
<small>Source: [http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/1871.html?1406318762 forum.figu.org: Your Questions to Billy Meier - Answered (External)]</small>
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===Why have we not yet destroyed ourselves like other star systems have done so because of religion?===
 
===Why have we not yet destroyed ourselves like other star systems have done so because of religion?===
 
From the FIGU Forum (Questions Answered by Billy):
 
From the FIGU Forum (Questions Answered by Billy):
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| <small>''Cambridge Dictionary; British English: '''Religiosity'''</small><br>
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:<small><small>the '''quality''' of '''being very''' or '''too religious'''.</small></small>
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:<small><small>'''reminding''' of '''religious behaviour, often''' in a way that is '''annoying'''.</small></small>
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::<small><small>''religiose rhymes with morose''.</small></small>
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<blockquote>[[Semjase]] said that the damage from the Christian religion had spread to other systems and galaxies and even caused their destruction. How is this possible when, as crazy as things are here, we haven't yet destroyed our own world over this, at least not to the extent she describes?<br />
 
<blockquote>[[Semjase]] said that the damage from the Christian religion had spread to other systems and galaxies and even caused their destruction. How is this possible when, as crazy as things are here, we haven't yet destroyed our own world over this, at least not to the extent she describes?<br />
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The other ones had more sophisticated weapons and technology to destroy themselves. We are still bound to our planet (luckily, in this respect). We are still in our baby shoes compared to them (in technical aspects).<ref>http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=12&page=2685</ref></blockquote>
 
The other ones had more sophisticated weapons and technology to destroy themselves. We are still bound to our planet (luckily, in this respect). We are still in our baby shoes compared to them (in technical aspects).<ref>http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=12&page=2685</ref></blockquote>
 
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==Excerpt from Contact Report 039==
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==Religion in the Contact Reports==
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<small>Source: [[Contact Reports]]</small>
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===Contact Report 253 ''(Excerpt)''===
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<small>Source: [[Contact Report 253]]</small>
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| <br>'''Florena:'''
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| 41. Our investigations of the last two weeks however has clearly resulted in the fact that the alleged representative of God, believes neither in the existence of a God above himself, nor in the religious insanity that he preaches.
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| 41. Unsere Abklärungen der letzten zwei Wochen haben aber ganz eindeutig ergeben, dass der angebliche Gottesstellvertreter weder an die Existenz eines Gottes über ihm selbst glaubt noch an all den religiösen Unsinn, den er predigt.
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| 42. This man believes only in himself, as did also many of the previous Popes, as we likewise endeavoured to clear up for ourselves through travels into the past to the places of the respective events.
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| 42. Dieser Mann glaubt nur an sich selbst, wie das auch viele der früheren Päpste taten, wie wir uns bemühten ebenfalls abzuklären durch Reisen in die Vergangenheit an die Orte des jeweiligen Geschehens.
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| 43. It proved to be about them, that a certain small number of only precisely 36 Popes believed in a God above them, whereas all others only considered it for its post and position of power for themselves.
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| 43. Es erwies sich dabei, dass eine gewisse kleinere Anzahl von nur gerade 36 Päpsten an einen Gott über ihnen glaubten, während alle andern nur auf sich selbst, auf ihr Amt und auf ihre Machtposition bedacht waren.
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| 44. Quite a few among them in fact completely rejected the Christian faith, which they outwardly, of course, knew to conceal.
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| 44. Etliche unter ihnen lehnten den christlichen Glauben sogar vollkommen ab, was sie nach aussen hin natürlich zu verheimlichen wussten.
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| <br>'''Billy:'''
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| Aha, then therefore I was correct with my suspicion.
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| Aha, dann hatte ich mit meiner Vermutung also recht.
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(FOM Note: Also see [[God-delusion and God-delusion Insanity]], whereby the genuine delusion symptoms are much less prevalent than some have traditionally thought, at least among the Popes themselves, with just 13.64% of all the Popes over 1,965 years suffering from actual delusion)
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===Contact Report 39 ''(Excerpt)''===
 
<small>Source: [[Contact Report 039]]</small>
 
<small>Source: [[Contact Report 039]]</small>
 
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"I know that very well, and in these falsified assertions, the boundless stupidity and lack of education of the scribes inevitably comes to full expression, for how else could they have written in their fantasy story that Ararat is the highest mountain in the world, and on the other hand, how, for example, could elephants as well as mammoths, which were still there at that time, rhinoceroses and all other 4-legged animals, etc. have climbed down from Ararat? I happen to know the mountain very well and know that even a good mountain climber has lots of distress and trouble when wanting to conquer the mountain.
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| 273. Sure, except that the event - with the building of the ark, which Noah himself did not build, and with his family and with the animals and everything else - became so falsified that no current information agrees with the truth any more.
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| 273. Sicher, nur wurde die Begebenheit mit dem Bau der Arche, die Noah nicht selbst erbaut hat, mit seiner Familie und mit den Tieren und allem anderen derart verfälscht, dass keinerlei heutige Angaben mehr mit der Wahrheit übereinstimmen.
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| 274. The events with the ark did truly take place, but at another time, 90,000 years later.
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| 274. Wahrheitlich fand das Geschehen mit der Arche aber zu einer anderen Zeit statt, 90000 Jahre später.
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| I know that very well, and in these falsified assertions, the boundless stupidity and lack of education of the scribes inevitably comes to full expression, for how else could they have written in their fantasy story that Ararat is the highest mountain in the world, and on the other hand, how, for example, could elephants as well as mammoths, which were still there at that time, rhinoceroses and all other 4-legged animals, etc. have climbed down from Ararat? I happen to know the mountain very well and know that even a good mountain climber has lots of distress and trouble when wanting to conquer the mountain.
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| Das ist mir bestens bekannt, und in diesen verfälschten Behauptungen kommt ja auch die grenzenlose Dummheit und Ungebildetheit der Schreiberlinge voll zum Ausdruck, denn wie hätten sie in ihrer Phantasiegeschichte sonst schreiben können, dass der Ararat der höchste Berg der Erde sei, und wie hätten andererseits z.B. Elefanten sowie Mammuts, die es damals ja noch gab, Nashörner und alle andern vierbeinigen Tiere usw. vom Ararat heruntersteigen können. Ich kenne zufälligerweise den Berg ziemlich genau und weiss, dass selbst ein guter Bergsteiger seine liebe Not und Mühe hat, wenn erden Berg bezwingen will.
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| 275. Not all Earth human beings think logically and with a sharp mind.
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| 275. Nicht alle Erdenmenschen denken logisch und mit scharfem Verstand.
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| 276. Many also live in some belief of an unreal religion, which forbids them to reflect upon and investigate such matters.
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| 276. Viele leben auch in irgendeinem Glauben einer irrealen Religion, die ihnen jegliches Nachdenken und Nachforschen nach solchen Belangen verbietet.
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===Contact Report 237 ''(Excerpt)''===
275. Not all Earth human beings think logically and with a sharp mind.
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<small>Source: [[Contact Report 237]]<br>Regarding 'UFO Religion' see [[Other Contactees]]</small>
 
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276. Many also live in some belief of an unreal religion, which forbids them to reflect upon and investigate such matters.
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277. On the other hand, you also have to consider that you have traveled very far, and you have considered everything very precisely.
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278. As I know, you’ve traveled 43 countries of the Earth and have tirelessly been in investigations.
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279. So you have - also with our assistance - experienced and found many more things than what the best archaeologists and other scientists of the Earth have ever managed to do.
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| I just wanted to make sure. You know, a G. G. in America claims that he or someone else knows that he or someone else would have contact with a certain Commander Hatoon of the Pleiades or somewhere else, but also with Jesus Christ, who under the name Santana or under some other such crazy name is supposed to be crazy enough to maintain contact with an upper-mad earthling, to let him loose with half-slavish idiocies on the otherwise already mostly sectarian enslaved earth humanity.
280. Moreover, you’ve also traveled outer space and the DAL Universe with us and have seen various foreign worlds and other life forms.
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| Ich wollte nur sichergehen. Weisst du, ein G. G. in Amerika behauptet, dass er oder weiss der Deibel sonst wer mit einem gewissen Commander Hatoon von den Plejaden oder sonst irgendwo Kontakt hätte, so aber auch mit Jesus Christus, der unter dem Namen Santana oder unter sonst so einem irren Namen verrückt genug sein soll, um mit einem oberirren Erdling Kontakt zu pflegen, um diesen mit halbschlauen Idiotien auf die sonst schon grösstenteils sektiererisch versklavte Erdenmenschheit loszu-lassen.
 
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'''Billy:'''<br>
 
Maybe you’re right..."
 
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<small>Source: [[Contact Report 039]]</small>
 
 
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==Indexed terms==
 
==Indexed terms==
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==Spiritual teaching antithesis of religion==
  
== UFO Religion ==
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'''[[Spirit teaching contrary to religions, sects and Satanism]]'''
FIGU's classification, interest and category, doesn't proficiently match these definitions:
 
<blockquote>
 
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_religion UFO religion (Wikipedia)]<br>
 
"A UFO religion is any religion <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU isn't a religion)</font> in which the existence of extraterrestrial (ET) entities operating unidentified flying objects (UFOs) is an element of belief <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU interested individuals don't believe)</font>. Typically, adherents of such religions believe the ETs to be interested in the welfare of humanity which either already is, or eventually will become, part of a pre-existing ET civilisation <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU describes evolution as not guaranteed)</font>. Others may incorporate ETs into a more supernatural worldview <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU says there's no supernatural only natural)</font> in which the UFO occupants are more akin to angels <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU says angels are fiction)</font> than physical aliens <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU is against xenophobia)</font>; this distinction may be blurred within the overall subculture <font color="#A0B59C">(With FIGU it's defined)</font>. These religions have their roots in the tropes of early science fiction (especially space opera) and weird fiction writings, in ufology, and in the subculture of UFO sightings and alien abduction stories <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU literature isn't about any of that)</font>."
 
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see [[Spirit Teaching]]. Alternatively; For many readers the ‘reason why Earth humans need help’ in the form of a ‘teaching’ is more interesting than the ‘teaching’ itself, FutureofMankind caters for all audiences, see [[Earth#The Situation of Earth]]
  
Another definition, which also lists FIGU:
 
  
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'''Q: Why is this so-called ‘Spirit Teaching’ brought to the foreground every so often during discussion?'''<br>
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFO_religions List of UFO religions (Wikipedia)]<br>
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A: It’s their ‘philosophies for life’, and is important to them for various reasons, FutureofMankind caters for all audiences, see [[Earth#The Situation of Earth]]
"UFO religions are groups <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU is a group with a wider interested grouping)</font> which deal with alleged <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU offers proof)</font> communication between humans and extraterrestrial beings."
 
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'''Q: [[Christian Frehner]] said in a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9P3z1n0FbI documentary (Youtube)] that there should be no partitions within the community?'''<br>
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A: Opinions have always varied through out all history, FutureofMankind caters for all audiences, readers don’t have to read the so-called ‘[[Spirit Teaching]]’ if that’s not what interests them, see [[Earth#The Situation of Earth]], [[Other Contactees]], [[Extraterrestrial Life]], maybe [[Extraterrestrial Traditions]] or make your own way.
  
[[The Talmud of Jmmanuel]] listed as a modern gospel:
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels#Modern_gospels List of Gospels - Modern gospels (Wikipedia)]<br>
 
"Modern gospels <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU describes it as an archeological discovery i.e. not modern)</font><br>Talmud Jmmanuel (1963; Another Gospel attributed to Judas Iscariot)"
 
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Another definition:
 
 
 
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[https://www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/ufo-religions UFO religions (Encylopedia.com)]<br>
 
The search for UFOs <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU interested persons have searched for UFOs)</font> has become the centre of a belief system <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU only has facts to consider)</font> with most, if not all, of the features that are usually linked with religion. The phrase UFO Religions can thus be applied to those organisations that exhibit many of the various dimensions that have been routinely applied to other, more established, religious organisations.
 
 
 
While the precise definition of religion is still a matter of debate among scholars, there seems to be some agreement about those key features or characteristics that are a central tenet to any religious system. Among these are a communally shared belief system <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU interested persons rarely agree with eachother)</font> or worldview <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU interested individuals are international, broad variety of worldviews)</font> in which a sacred or transcendent reality figures prominently <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU says reality itself is the only real reality)</font>; a belief that the human race needs some kind of salvation or redemption <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU offers no salvation or redemption whatsoever)</font> from its present condition; an ethical system; experiences such as devotion <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU recommends devotion be silent to allow for focus and concentration)</font>, ecstasy <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU advises against ecstasy because it's as harmful to the body as negativity)</font>, rebirth <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU describes incarnation as a fact of life)</font>, and inner peace; central myths <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU distinguishes itself from myths)</font> or stories, especially those dealing with the creation <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU designates 'creation' a form of consciousness)</font> and future of humankind <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU defines evolution as real)</font>; and rituals <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU says magic doesn't exist, everything can be explained)</font>. Many of these features are also found in UFO religious groups, though not all have been accorded the central place given them in most of the world's religions. Several UFO groups are noted for forming well-knit communities with a mission to propagate <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU doesn't allow missionising and propaganda)</font> the teachings <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU does offer 'teachings')</font> of their faith <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU isn't a faith)</font>. Others stress individual spiritual development <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU describes spiritual development as an evolution matter)</font> and/or healing <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU categorises healing as an individual matter, and consciousness related)</font>. Still others, while having some of the main features of religion, are mail-order organizations <font color="#A0B59C">(FIGU interest is more an internet thing)</font> and thus lack the communal and ritual aspects typical of some UFO religions.
 
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See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigator Investigator (Wikipedia)]
 
  
 
==Religion and Relegeon==
 
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'''[[FIGU#WHAT_IS_RELIGION.3F_WHAT_IS_RELEGEON.3F|What is Religion and What is Relegeon?]]'''
 
'''[[FIGU#WHAT_IS_RELIGION.3F_WHAT_IS_RELEGEON.3F|What is Religion and What is Relegeon?]]'''
  
==Common misconceptions==
 
<small>[[List of common misconceptions|List of common misconceptions about the FIGU information by subject]]<br>
 
[[List of common misconceptions#Explanation|Explanation about the broad subject of why]]</small>
 
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* You make your own luck.<ref>[[FIGU Bulletin 056]]</ref>
 
 
* Everyone is the architect of his or her own fortune.<ref>[[FIGU Bulletin 056]]</ref>
 
 
* Everywhere, everything is well ordered. Law and regulation and natural principles prevail.<ref>[[God-delusion and God-delusion Insanity]]</ref>
 
 
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==Further Reading==
 
==Further Reading==
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* [[Interview_with_Billy_(1988)#6th_Question|Interview with Billy (1988)]] - 6th Question
 
* [[Interview_with_Billy_(1988)#6th_Question|Interview with Billy (1988)]] - 6th Question
 
* [[God]]
 
* [[God]]
 
* [[Prophets]]
 
* [[Prophets]]
 
* http://theyfly.com/Meier_on_the_Truth_about_Mohammed.html
 
* http://theyfly.com/Meier_on_the_Truth_about_Mohammed.html
 
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* http://au.figu.org/like_glove.html
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==References==
 
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Latest revision as of 14:39, 16 November 2020

IMPORTANT NOTE
This article is not an official FIGU publication.


“Truly, it is not right to forbid opinion holders and religious believers, or believers in god, places in which they, individually or in groups can retreat or get together for the purpose of exchanging opinions, or for the religious reflection, because that does not correspond to freedom of opinion and freedom of belief. A different way of reflecting, striving and acting, which is directed against such places and their emblems, represents sheer sectarian and fanatical racism against religion and belief, as well as hatred of those who believe differently, and that is absolutely unacceptable in every form…”

‘Billy’ Eduard Albert Meier
23rd January – 7th June 2009

Source: au.figu.org/god_delusion.html, see God-delusion and God-delusion Insanity - “not right to forbid” -not right to participate


What are five important aspects regarding Earth religions?

Source: Contact Report 031


  1. Religion is only a primitive machination by Man to command, suppress and exploit others, to which only life forms that are weak in their consciousness succumb.
  2. When Man indulges in his religions, i.e. malevolent, erroneous doctrines, his consciousness wastes away more and more and ultimately leads to a bottomless abyss.[1]
  3. Earth is the only planet within the Milky Way galaxy that has religions of our form. Our religions control people’s lives and the welfare of the whole planet retarding our world by thousands of years in spiritual development.[2]
  4. Every aspect of spiritual evolution is blocked by these religions, making any genuine progress impossible.[3]
  5. Our religions still contain some real worth, but this becomes so overshadowed that only a few people are able to see any effective truth in them.[4]


(FOM Note: In United Kingdom (and other countries) it's a criminal offence were someone to attack you physically or verbally because of your religion or belief, or for that matter because of your lack of religion e.g. Atheism. Someone is also committing a criminal offence if they 'stir up' hatred of a particular religious group. This doesn't mean you can't still talk about it honestly and openly, just keep the talk amongst the right company, know when to close your mouth, don't let the conversation spill over into the street, sort of thing. See references to Silent revolution of truth and Quiet revolution of truth)

FIGU Forum, Questions Answered by Billy

Source: forum.figu.org: Your Questions to Billy Meier - Answered (External)


Why have we not yet destroyed ourselves like other star systems have done so because of religion?

From the FIGU Forum (Questions Answered by Billy):

Cambridge Dictionary; British English: Religiosity
the quality of being very or too religious.
reminding of religious behaviour, often in a way that is annoying.
religiose rhymes with morose.

Semjase said that the damage from the Christian religion had spread to other systems and galaxies and even caused their destruction. How is this possible when, as crazy as things are here, we haven't yet destroyed our own world over this, at least not to the extent she describes?


ANSWER: Hi Michael,

The other ones had more sophisticated weapons and technology to destroy themselves. We are still bound to our planet (luckily, in this respect). We are still in our baby shoes compared to them (in technical aspects).[5]



Religion in the Contact Reports

Source: Contact Reports

Contact Report 253 (Excerpt)

Source: Contact Report 253


British English Schweizer Standarddeutsch FIGU.png

Florena:

Florena:
41. Our investigations of the last two weeks however has clearly resulted in the fact that the alleged representative of God, believes neither in the existence of a God above himself, nor in the religious insanity that he preaches. 41. Unsere Abklärungen der letzten zwei Wochen haben aber ganz eindeutig ergeben, dass der angebliche Gottesstellvertreter weder an die Existenz eines Gottes über ihm selbst glaubt noch an all den religiösen Unsinn, den er predigt.
42. This man believes only in himself, as did also many of the previous Popes, as we likewise endeavoured to clear up for ourselves through travels into the past to the places of the respective events. 42. Dieser Mann glaubt nur an sich selbst, wie das auch viele der früheren Päpste taten, wie wir uns bemühten ebenfalls abzuklären durch Reisen in die Vergangenheit an die Orte des jeweiligen Geschehens.
43. It proved to be about them, that a certain small number of only precisely 36 Popes believed in a God above them, whereas all others only considered it for its post and position of power for themselves. 43. Es erwies sich dabei, dass eine gewisse kleinere Anzahl von nur gerade 36 Päpsten an einen Gott über ihnen glaubten, während alle andern nur auf sich selbst, auf ihr Amt und auf ihre Machtposition bedacht waren.
44. Quite a few among them in fact completely rejected the Christian faith, which they outwardly, of course, knew to conceal. 44. Etliche unter ihnen lehnten den christlichen Glauben sogar vollkommen ab, was sie nach aussen hin natürlich zu verheimlichen wussten.

Billy:

Billy:
Aha, then therefore I was correct with my suspicion. Aha, dann hatte ich mit meiner Vermutung also recht.



(FOM Note: Also see God-delusion and God-delusion Insanity, whereby the genuine delusion symptoms are much less prevalent than some have traditionally thought, at least among the Popes themselves, with just 13.64% of all the Popes over 1,965 years suffering from actual delusion)

Contact Report 39 (Excerpt)

Source: Contact Report 039


British English Schweizer Standarddeutsch FIGU.png

Semjase:

Semjase:
273. Sure, except that the event - with the building of the ark, which Noah himself did not build, and with his family and with the animals and everything else - became so falsified that no current information agrees with the truth any more. 273. Sicher, nur wurde die Begebenheit mit dem Bau der Arche, die Noah nicht selbst erbaut hat, mit seiner Familie und mit den Tieren und allem anderen derart verfälscht, dass keinerlei heutige Angaben mehr mit der Wahrheit übereinstimmen.
274. The events with the ark did truly take place, but at another time, 90,000 years later. 274. Wahrheitlich fand das Geschehen mit der Arche aber zu einer anderen Zeit statt, 90000 Jahre später.

Billy:

Billy:
I know that very well, and in these falsified assertions, the boundless stupidity and lack of education of the scribes inevitably comes to full expression, for how else could they have written in their fantasy story that Ararat is the highest mountain in the world, and on the other hand, how, for example, could elephants as well as mammoths, which were still there at that time, rhinoceroses and all other 4-legged animals, etc. have climbed down from Ararat? I happen to know the mountain very well and know that even a good mountain climber has lots of distress and trouble when wanting to conquer the mountain. Das ist mir bestens bekannt, und in diesen verfälschten Behauptungen kommt ja auch die grenzenlose Dummheit und Ungebildetheit der Schreiberlinge voll zum Ausdruck, denn wie hätten sie in ihrer Phantasiegeschichte sonst schreiben können, dass der Ararat der höchste Berg der Erde sei, und wie hätten andererseits z.B. Elefanten sowie Mammuts, die es damals ja noch gab, Nashörner und alle andern vierbeinigen Tiere usw. vom Ararat heruntersteigen können. Ich kenne zufälligerweise den Berg ziemlich genau und weiss, dass selbst ein guter Bergsteiger seine liebe Not und Mühe hat, wenn erden Berg bezwingen will.

Semjase:

Semjase:
275. Not all Earth human beings think logically and with a sharp mind. 275. Nicht alle Erdenmenschen denken logisch und mit scharfem Verstand.
276. Many also live in some belief of an unreal religion, which forbids them to reflect upon and investigate such matters. 276. Viele leben auch in irgendeinem Glauben einer irrealen Religion, die ihnen jegliches Nachdenken und Nachforschen nach solchen Belangen verbietet.



Contact Report 237 (Excerpt)

Source: Contact Report 237
Regarding 'UFO Religion' see Other Contactees


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Billy:

Billy:
I just wanted to make sure. You know, a G. G. in America claims that he or someone else knows that he or someone else would have contact with a certain Commander Hatoon of the Pleiades or somewhere else, but also with Jesus Christ, who under the name Santana or under some other such crazy name is supposed to be crazy enough to maintain contact with an upper-mad earthling, to let him loose with half-slavish idiocies on the otherwise already mostly sectarian enslaved earth humanity. Ich wollte nur sichergehen. Weisst du, ein G. G. in Amerika behauptet, dass er oder weiss der Deibel sonst wer mit einem gewissen Commander Hatoon von den Plejaden oder sonst irgendwo Kontakt hätte, so aber auch mit Jesus Christus, der unter dem Namen Santana oder unter sonst so einem irren Namen verrückt genug sein soll, um mit einem oberirren Erdling Kontakt zu pflegen, um diesen mit halbschlauen Idiotien auf die sonst schon grösstenteils sektiererisch versklavte Erdenmenschheit loszu-lassen.



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Spiritual teaching antithesis of religion

Spirit teaching contrary to religions, sects and Satanism

see Spirit Teaching. Alternatively; For many readers the ‘reason why Earth humans need help’ in the form of a ‘teaching’ is more interesting than the ‘teaching’ itself, FutureofMankind caters for all audiences, see Earth#The Situation of Earth


Q: Why is this so-called ‘Spirit Teaching’ brought to the foreground every so often during discussion?
A: It’s their ‘philosophies for life’, and is important to them for various reasons, FutureofMankind caters for all audiences, see Earth#The Situation of Earth

Q: Christian Frehner said in a documentary (Youtube) that there should be no partitions within the community?
A: Opinions have always varied through out all history, FutureofMankind caters for all audiences, readers don’t have to read the so-called ‘Spirit Teaching’ if that’s not what interests them, see Earth#The Situation of Earth, Other Contactees, Extraterrestrial Life, maybe Extraterrestrial Traditions or make your own way.



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What is Religion and What is Relegeon?



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