Talk:How To Create Peace And Harmony On Earth
Jamesm 21:30, 20 November 2009 (UTC) Any advice out there for this article would be welcome.
Jamesm 02:35, 21 November 2009 (UTC) Or comments too! Fire away at me. Be blunt. Be honest.
--Sanjin 07:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)Hey bud. Good page. "Vision" would probably be a better way to express it than "imagination", although the good intentions sometimes do seem like imagination in this world.
Hi James, I hope you dont' mind but I added one line to the section under human rights: Free access to all available methods of transportation, including one private transport vehicle per household Good Work-Scott
Jamesm 21:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC) Thanks guys, I appreciate it.
MarksmanR 12:16, 23 November 2009 (UTC) This article is a great idea James, I love it. It is also my dream.
Ok the bottom part sounds alright- BUT the top part is too drastic for my taste, it sounds like Socialism, Communism and wreaks of NEW WORLD ORDER~ Thats my thoughts- Revision on what would be more realistic??? or what is predicted to be true directly from Mr. Meier would be a better approach... Thanks!
Jamesm 22:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC) Thanks MarksmanR. Jbehr, please make any changes you see fit and then justify it here? Also when you edit this discussion page please type four consecutive tildes (~~~~) before your next comment in order to insert a signature followed by the time in UTC just like you see in most paragraphs of this discussion page. Thanks!
Hawaiian 19:11, 6 March 2011 (UTC)Sounds like a tall order, although this framework of proposals appears in conjunction to what the Plejarens recommend for Earth, it still lacks the authoritarian apparatus to counter both internal and external negative forces that WILL intervene in order to fulfill and/or maintain the current “status quo” of power lust. Has anyone really thought about the Creator Overlords or their counter-parts including the Ashtar followers and others who vowed revenge? Also as in the past, scientists with uncontrollable ego centric tendencies and we exclusively required to counter these occurrences should it happen?
Some would say, “That’s the reason for the international troops”, but logic will prevail since scientists will develop weapons that will make these forces obsolete.
Will the Plejarens or any one of their allies be willing to stand by these proposals to ensure it bears fruit or conveniently sit by because of some sick “free will” clause as was done in the past? Anyone in their rightful mind is aware that the secret agencies and their cohorts will put a bullet in your head the minute they believe their power base is being threatened.
The question remains, who is willing to take that risk and how many have to die in order to make these proposals bear fruit or will it ever take root at all considering that those currently in power will “allow” such endeavors to occur at their predicament?
Until these concerns are met and though I support such measures, considering the fact that sinister forces do have much control over its destiny, at this conjuncture the most logical reasoning is to adhere to one’s current quest to promote internal spiritual evolution without drawing unnecessary negative forces against your well being. The vast majority of Earth humans is too weak to counter these forces and would be in vain to do so at the present time the way circumstances are at this moment. (Just look how many times both Earthly and malevolent ET’s have tried to kill Billy at least 21 times in some cases direct intervention by the Plejarens prevented as least one attempt)
In its present form and the present situation here on Earth, this proposal should be presented to the UN, but don’t hold your hopes up too high, it’s still a political slew of composite nations with their own selfish agendas to promote.
However, I would like to add one input that every husband and male human be given a place of refugee an apartment exclusively for him and off limits to women like on the planet Erra.
Alive said ...
Alive said ...
3. Prerequisites for marriage: [....] No sexual contact for first 6 months of relationship. Lust is a primitive emotion and is confused with true love. Sexual interaction can produce false dependencies on partner (unenforceable but should at least be a recommendation during education).
I am afraid that after the first 6 months of their relationships young people will become masturbators for the rest of their lives.
---- M -- 20:39, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
So is 3 months more acceptable you think? :D
--Jamesm 21:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Markvd said ...
It seems the resources are the call to war nowadays. It seems every big money company is securing all they can even in territories not in there regions. It's time to wake up to reality and apply it, governments of Earth.:)
--Markvd 01:17, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Alive said ...
James M,
I think two weeks is long enough for young people to contemplate their ongoing relationships and make decision whether they would treat their partners as lovers or as pleasure objects. Three months would make them unsure about their own thoughts and feelings, and make them hesitate to make decision. I am afraid it would produce mass celibacy in a scale we have never seen in entire Terra's history.
---- M -- 12:38, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Alive said ...
On the section "Destroy Almost All Nuclear Weapons", second point: "Exception: the CWA should keep a cache of nuclear weapons in case of a meteor-threat."
My suggestions:
1. In order to minimize the danger of nuclear accident, the storage of CWA's nuclear weapons should be placed on Mars using ancient warfare facilities left by the Martians.
2. No alcohol beverage should be allowed to enter Mars (if we take CWA soldiers's characters into consideration).
---- M -- 13:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Ritak said ...
Thanks for compiling this information. It makes for an excellent high quality read and gives me hope. I like it when someone has a clear plan! :-) Salome.
--Ritak 21:23, 28 July 2011 (BST)
Markvd said ...
I have an absolutely ruthless plan, only correct thinking people can have children due to chosen few responsible people on Earth 7% or less. Due to lack of that one capability Earth reaches a more reasonable level some time in the year 2057. Each country shall be represented evenly, not one holding the true ring to rule them all. :) j/k In reality I suggest a mandatory worldwide summit of leaders so they can drastically change the numbers so all of humanity can evolve correctly and the the interesting developments not our current trend of rinse and repeat shall push us further. We won't get any further unless man learns that the few, the proud is not the way to go. They will have to learn to encompass all of man and give them the chance to find the true path and not block it with silly obstacles they currently have employed. You will have to mathematically prove through charts or a presentation that it is a feasable option due to less dramatic hollywood real life nature events, food quality, planetary deterioration, etc. Good luck and may the force be with the few that can make it happen.
--Markvd 22:11, 28 July 2011 (BST)
Alive said ...
Point 5 under the heading "Population decimation strategy ":
"Must have been "dating" for at least 2 years. (Monitoring by dating registry required)."
My questions are:
1. How about "backstreet dating"? Will it be monitored by dating registry or there will be another way to handle this special irregularity?
2. How about blind date? Does it blind the people who involved themselves with this risky game? How United Nations Spiritual Council should react to this epistemological problem?
---- M -- 06:47, 30 July 2011 (BST)
Markvd said ...
Houses on water sounds cool. It's like a boat house combo submarine defense. If we covered the entire ocean with these we would look like a giant egg farm from afar housing alien like creatures. :) I'm guessing no sudden movements in the dome house to prevent an earthquake simulation. Everybody practically has to be on one side of the room without unbalancing depending on size, so this sounds like a challenge for our unbalanced kind.
--Markvd 06:23, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Peace562 said ...
I would like to know who wrote this i have gone through half of this document , and this sounds almost entirely like the system know as the New World Order . One World Government , One World Bank , forced Sterilization , a "peace" army . I follow and study the spirit teaching but this sounds like this will enslave humanity not set it free.Surely There must be other ways to fix the problem of overpopulation. This To me sounds like a work of a rothschild family member or a rockefeller or zbiginew brezinski.
--Peace562 06:30, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
Hi there I am the author and I'd be interested for you to explain how you came to your conclusion that it would be worse for humanity rather than better.
Here's looking forward to a decent debate.
Peace,
James
--Jamesm 12:52, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
I said ...
I think it is better if the dating registry is supervised by, heck, United Nations Spiritual Council, since the registry plays an extremely important role in deciding whether a man may marry the woman (or the women) he loves or not. I am afraid if the registry is allowed to operate without any supervision, it would gradually evolve into a state within state and arbitrarily ban any kind of civil partnership. Peace and harmony could not be found anywhere on Earth, since the ban would trigger massive uprisings in every country. Even people who have decided not to have a civil partnership with anyone will join the uprisings. I do not know why.
---- M -- 14:03, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
Hi M! Yes the UNSpC or perhaps a department of that, the UN Department for Family Planning maybe? We could be here for a long time creating a whole new hierarchy of departments if we really wanted to be thorough in completing this, erm, visionary document. I shall consider how I might expand this document but on the face of it I am not qualified to get it right since I havent even read spirit lesson number 1 yet....
--Jamesm 22:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
What a relief. I have not learnt the spirit lesson too. But that would not stop me to think and rethink this agitative, visionary, evolutionary, and at the same time revolutionary document. In fact I see it as something much more readworthy than the Bible, Al Quran, and all Vedas put together. I will study the document and give my comments and suggestions over and over as my personal contributions to the future of mankind. It is allright if you do not have enough time to edit the document, your next personality would do that for you.
---- M -- 05:09, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
JamesM,
It would be better if you put the section numbers before the headings like you did on the Contents box, such as "3.5.6 Enact New Genetic Engineering Laws", "3.5.7 Enact New Earth Preservation Laws", and so on, so it would be easier for the readers to mention the points they want to comment.
On the 3.5.6.1 it is written that primitive religious arguments and fear mongering against genetic engineering must be outlawed. I think they do not need to be outlawed. They will wither away as Earth human life forms see more and more benefits from the positive genetic engineering projects. Besides lawing out an argument, no matter how wrong it is, is a fascist policy, which is contrary to the peace and harmony.
---- M -- 05:11, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
Thanks M, you have wisdom within you. I've made an improvement to the article as suggested by you.
--Jamesm 17:41, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
I thank you for your willingness to consider my suggestions, JamesM. It is my honour to read and comment this document.
3.5.6.2 looks fine. I agree. Primitive religious arguments and fear mongering must be counterargued and counteracted.
3.5.6.5 is very interesting and should not be changed for any reason. I do not like human-animal cross-breeds either.
(Down with Medusa! Down with Medusa!)
---- M -- 15:16, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
JamesM,
I would like to comment on 3.3.6 (about Central World Army). I think you just needs to mention the minimal number of CWA personnel, say 100 or 1,000, and let the Spiritul Council annually decide the actual number required for the following year. What I thought about the minimal number is that it represents only the number of regular personnels (ad hoc personnels). That is all for today.
---- M -- 05:42, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
CWA should be acted as no more than the armed force of the, heck, United Nations Spiritual Council. CWA should not have any authority to issue worldwide security regulations, since this authority is the prerogative of the Spiritual Council. What CWA would have is only the authority to enforce the regulations militarily. That is all for today.
---- M -- 05:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
I have a suggestion for the section 3.4 (Form New National Governments). Every new national government should have an article in its new constitution which explicitly says that it will gradually transfer its authorities to the Spiritual Council as the preparation to establish Terran Government, a nationless planetary government with a vast territory comprises Earth, Mars, Seritan, and their respective moons. That is all.
---- M -- 05:46, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
On the section 3.5.4.1 there are many goods which would be freely distributed. I think they do not need to be mentioned one by one. It is enough to state that the basic necessities (primary goods) will be freely distributed under the coordination of new national governments. I am afraid mentioning the goods one by one would inspire some readers to suggest much longer list of basic necessities, which includes vibrators, adult DVDs, adult novels, adult online games, adult monopoly game, and so on.
---- M -- 07:51, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
In the section 3.5.5.2 it is written that the food must be distributed equally. I think it would be better if the food is distributed proportionally to prevent a worldwide obesity crisis, which would give a tremendous gigantic soil compression unthinkable by the best Earth scientists.
---- M -- 04:37, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
In the section 3.5.8.3 it is written "All Earthly religions are falsehoods [...]" I think it would be better if "Earthly" is erased, so the readers will not think that unearthly religions are better.
---- M -- 05:17, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
Some suggestions for the section 3.5.9.1:
1. The single world currency consists of crystal layered gold, silver, and copper coins. The crystal layer functions as the protection and also the seal to prevent counterfeiting.
2. The coins have to be issued by Terran Bank and closely supervised by the Spiritual Council.
3. The mint should be located somewhere on Mars and guarded by, heck, Central World Army Special Force.
4. There will be no legal substitute for the coins. The coins are the only legal means of payment on Earth, Mars, and Seritan.
5. The coins will be distributed proportionally, not equally, to the new national governments of Earth and the new regime of Seritan.
---- M -- 09:56, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
Seritan (mentioned in Contact Report 463) is a planet where all of the human beings have genetically engineered themselves to give birth only to females. No males exist on their planet any longer. For all we know they could all be ugly by our standards so watch what you wish for :D
--Jamesm 23:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
Terran Genetic Engineering Institute has to study Seritanian genes and find a way to change some genetic variants which cause unbeautifulness and unloveliness of Seritanian anatomy. If the institute fails, then the Spiritual Council would consider to exclude planet Seritan from Terran territorial map and set the star system where Seritan locates as a no-fly-zone for 20 million years.
---- M -- 04:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
JamesM,
In the section 3.5.8.4 religion is considered as "mankind's second greatest bane". What is the first greatest bane?
---- M -- 04:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
Overpopulation of course.
--Jamesm 18:50, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
That is quite enigmatic. Was the invention of religions driven by overpopulation, or the opposite?
---- M -- 13:21, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
Some religions such as Catholicism exacerbate overpopulation (make it worse). But religions were not driven by overpopulation. Of course they spread with each new human being who is born and brain washed into believing the religious nonsense. However religions were mostly invented originally by liars and power-crazed human beings (including some ET ones).
--Jamesm 18:22, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
JamesM,
What you said about catholicism reminds me of something I learnt several years ago from Monty Python:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
---- M -- 10:35, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
One World Bank (OWB), also known as Terran Bank, does not come from the merger of banks. OWB is a new type of bank came from the Spiritual Council's monetary decree to provide Earth's society with a central monetary institution which produce, distribute, and maintain one world currency in the transition from commodity-based economy to noncommodity-based economy. OWB will not inherit assets, problems, and frauds from other banks, since it has no institutional relation with them and has no intention to help them. In the case of shady monetary competition, OWB would try to undermine its competitors in a way that has never been thought of by Earth central bankers and monetary theoriticians. The establishment of OWB, which is a central bank, a commercial bank, and at the same time a community bank, will be the culmination of Earth's banking evolution and at the same time the end of it.
---- M -- 10:03, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Markvd said ...
This is directed to I Said, as most say you can't accomplish much without anybody to lead. Religion needs followers in order for it to function, I think it would be in there interest to maximize there control by multiplying as they have done. Now everybody has there own religion to speak about which is like business in how conflicts arise over followers of said religion. I doubt religion would be a threat if 3 people in the entire world are delusional but our entire majority mass is easily gullible to fall for simple minded tricks. We really need to study harder in school. Thus we can challenge every ridiculous claim buy these religions peacefully as they fade with there delusions.
--Markvd 13:05, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
That is interesting remark from Two Marks. He pictured religion-driven overpopulation as somekind of powerbuilding project done through the multiplication of followers.
Under 3.1.2 Population Decimation Strategy there should be a point which says that male religious people should always wear condoms 24 hours a day, no matter what they are doing. Even if they have sworn not to procreate anymore they must always wear titanium condoms.
---- M -- 04:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
Some suggestions for the section "Enact New Housing Laws":
1. In the case of emergency the dome-shaped houses could launch to outerspace and join a Greatspacer. After the situation is safe enough, the houses could go back to Earth and land on their previous locations.
2. Only families could get dome-shaped houses. Earth human life forms who have decided not to make any civil partnership could only get rooms in the gigantic high-tech cube-shaped apartments.
3. Near every apartment there will be an artificial forest, provided for the nonmarried Earth human life forms, where they could calmly contemplate their lives in the universe.
4. In the case of emergency the gigantic apartments could launch to outerspace and stay there for several months without any assistance from a Greatspacer.
---- M -- 09:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
M I think you are letting your imagination run a little too wild. As for domes and blocks of flats: everyone deserve a nice, extreme-weather resistant dome house, not just families, no?
--Jamesm 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
But a nonmarried human life form does not need a house "large enough to comfortably host a family of 5 human beings" and "a plot of 2 acres of land for gardening activity". Giving something more than what someone needs is a waste of resources, which is contrary to the spirit of OWB. one of the disturbances I found on this document is the idea of equal distribution, which would open some possibilities for many inefficiencies and extravagancies in the future. It would be better to distribute free things proportionally based on what Earth human life forms really need for their personal daily lives, not what they want to have.
---- M -- 05:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
JamesM,
Why do not you mention about the official language used by United Nations Spiritual Council in this document? It is important, since CWA and OWB will use the same language.
---- M -- 08:32, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
M, yes a smaller dome house for single persons is more reasonable yeah?
The German language should be taught in all schools etc..? Yes good idea.
Thanks,
James
--Jamesm 18:14, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Markvd said ...
I agree I Said, necessity over luxury is the first law that should be implemented to advance humanity further. All necessities are free when we reach a population that is sustainable and responsible. If you want extravagant luxury, then you will have to pay for that. That is still a long ways off until the leaders of our planet master mathematics and science so they can look back on our generations far from now and say they weren't very mathematically skilled. :)
--Markvd 19:32, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I said ...
Heck, speaking German would make CWA personnels sound like GESTAPO soldiers, and schools would turn into Hitler Jugend quarters if German becomes a compulsory subject. I guess I should stop thinking about this document for awhile and continue my study on reality.
---- M -- 04:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
I guess it would be better if Central World Army entirely consists of Highlander swordmen equipped with samurai swords and old fine Scottish Whiskey.
---- M -- 17:16, 6 March 2011 (UTC)