Talk:Concentration, Meditation, Sleep

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Ramirez said ...

"As a rule eight hours is the highest measure of all things concerning sleeping and lying in bed. More than that fosters laziness, aggression, moodiness, neglect of duty and disinterest etc. and moreover, it testifies to a weakness of character and virtuelessness."

That's a bit rough on persons who allow themselves more than 8 hours sack time plus also it's simply a reality that some need more sleep than others just like water intake. Moreover not accurate regarding moodiness & aggression .... without my beauty sleep those two unpleasant characteristics would definitely manifest whilst with sufficient rest (for me) they remain relatively absent.

Apart from that quite interesting that the state of mind before sleep heavily influences the content of dreams.

--Ramirez 13:43, 16 May 2010 (BST)

levit8 said ...

I really needed to read and understand this because of my lack of knowledge in regards to this subject and how it effects me I found it resourceful for a human who is just trying to be the best human I can be, I won't thorw you flowers but I will throw you a thumbs up beam

--levit8 08:01, 21 May 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

Billy says:

For the human being it is extremely important and of special value to always realise that there are both two forms of concentration and two forms of meditation

One form refers to the stabilisation, which means that the object of concentration or meditation is fixed and is made permanent and unchanging

The second form is that of analytics by which the consciousness carries out an investigation and analysis of what has been concentrated and meditated on in an observing and considering, researching, testing and investigating manner, in order to create from it a synthesis, that is a summary and union or rather a result.

This analysis is of importance, because first of all everything must be processed, worked on, and everything must be undertaken to be able to use the whole thing."

Billy end of statement.

I have experimented with using these approaches not only in the waking, but also in the dream states. In the waking state, only the evolved humans (which is very rare) responds in a appropriate manner, as most are still degenerative and undisciplined and blinded by their limited capacity to acknowledge the truth, I don't even bother anymore, but keep my thought in silence.

However, in the dream state, one can actually question any character that appears "illogical" in nature, just look into their eyes to find any reaction! Sometimes the character will "sense" you about to analyze them and they flee! However, one must not be too analytical, because it scare away the characters in your dreams!

In the dream state, if I'm interpretating it correctly, Billy mentioned that the Unconscious and Subconscious are evident, then would it be logical to assume that doing an analytical observation and questioning are the same as analyzing one's Unconscious and Subconscious?

If so, than we can learn allot more about our personality or personalities from the dreams by inter-acting with them instead of just being some observer. After all, in the dream state, one need not be burdened with your other 5 primitive senses interfering with these exchanges between the Conscious, Subconscious and Unconscious....just a thought?

--Hawaiian 20:47, 21 May 2010 (BST)

Bigfoot said ...

I think I will pick up this brick (concentration/meditation/sleep) and make it a full load.

--Bigfoot 19:08, 8 August 2010 (BST)