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They have communicated and have guided us on how to reach a higher level. We learn the spirit teachings, implement them, evovle as a world, then who knows what happens next...............:) Imagine yourself an ET from another planet coming to a hostile mindset such as Earth that is unknowing of ET life and not even in the same zip code in terms of knowledge, would you want to meet up with those people. I wouldn't until they have paid there dues like every race in the cosmos.
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I see where in the future that contact with ET now or in the next 500 years still hasnt made any important changes to the future earth to any good degree and that were still barbarous in nature and in wars...and that money is being wasted on moon settelments ... so it appears what ever ET contact that takes place now and in the next 500 years has had Know effect for the spirit future of man...so it looks like there has not been any worth while contact to speak of ...discribing things of the future is like discribing a car from the out side but tells nothing of what makes it tick...you need to know the guts of it all,telling authors what things look like doesnt do a thing ...its sad to think that authors have no thought of there own to come up with ideas of there own... its like saying were going to have citys over the oceans are under oceans are under ground are in space are on the moon are two mile tall buildings... its called imagination...if authors want to help though the help of the ET"s you have to tell them how and what makes it tick... what makes it work...whats it for...ET needs to thought transfer to inventors ...But whos to say there not doing this already but maybe earths man kind is not capable with out ET"s intervention...thats right ...what intervention ...
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Problems that can be easily be solved by our leaders and governments can't be changed. The laws of creation don't allow manipulation as they do on our planet. That is maybe why they have  not allowed a singel ET race to come to Earth because the manipulative energy they possess is very negative to the cosmos. It's like nature itself the development of man, a tree doesn't always bask in the limelight, it must endure through the tough weather and turbulent events yet most times it still hold strong. Time will tell if Earth has capable minds that can endure. :)
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please change: Erra is 1.0003 times the amount to 1.00003
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This is the correct value page 234 at the new Semjase contact block.
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Roob said ...

I was pretty sure I read that the plejarens can have upto 3 wives. So why does this chapter say that Plejarens are monogomous?

--Roob 07:20, 18 July 2010 (BST)

Bigfoot said ...

The Plejaran wives get one husband only.

--Bigfoot 07:26, 18 July 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

I can't imagine 3 wives. Is that 3 wives for each planet residence you occupy. Let's say you have time share on 3,000 planets, that would be a whole lot of loving. :) j/k

--Mark 12:39, 18 July 2010 (BST)

zameen said ...

Mark your a nut:) but I like where your going!

--zameen 16:57, 18 July 2010 (BST)

Sanjin said ...

Hi Roob.

It is true that the Plejarens are monogamous, even though the Plejaren men may have several wives. The book "The Law of Love" explains that Earth humans have a false understanding of monogamy. Even though the men may have several wives, the marriage is still considered as one bond and one union (mono-gamy = one-marriage) with the man and the wives. This sentence from the Goblet of Truth gives some more details:

32)And it is rightful that the woman has one man only, because it is only through one man alone that a procreation (fertilisation) for descendants can come about; a man, however, may have three women, because he is capable of undertaking several procreations (fertilisations) with several women, but it is given for him to be able to be fair to all women in all things and in their provision and in their equality; and if a man has several women then a bond (marriage) applies with each of them, within which the other women are also included and take part.

It is one bond of a loving relationship, even though there are several members in the one union.

--Sanjin 19:16, 18 July 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

I have an ALTERNATE interpretation. Once the the BIG BANG occured we were all in one tiny spec of existence, HENCE maximum distribution of outgoing matter once the BANG occured. EVENTUALLY once we reach that absolute absolutum they speak of we will all be together ONCE again. :) We will have a ton of wives reaching level 1 absolutum once accumulated. I am ABSOLUTELY full of joy at this time. :) j/k

--Mark 22:13, 18 July 2010 (BST)

Mrnorm said ...

Am i wrong here... 21,000,000 million years ago you had or created your first space ship for outer space yet you say that the plejarens are only 3500 years ahead of us ... usa...Im sure the plejarens would have every thing under control if they so wished when it comes to contacting earth goverments on the down low...What is the mission of the plejarens ... if not to make a impact on earth humans... 300 years here and what have you to show for it... hummm?....Humans still have all these wars...starving people GREED and so on...truly how have you helped? Giving and taking must be equel... not if you have greed and the rich get richer and want more... you had 300 years to make a difference in that thinking.... all you do is come to earth for Vacation...to show off your new beamships...PREDECTIONS for 1977... you could repeat these same predections for the next 30 years and still come out about the same... ya think? now where are these Plejarens when you need them ... thats right there doing there mission which is to help humanity.... ya think?THE mission of the Plejarens should be to contact heads of goverments and the ones that need to know the truth,and the ones that are hungry for power and world domenence and profit your job is to convence these power hungry nuts to change there way of thinking.....make sure they dont gain access to the beamships, after all...your 3500 years more advance than us ... so think like it and act like it ...as if, like earth humans could get control to a beamship with out the know how of doing such a thing... this world needs world leadership... just like your world with the counsel on another planets...... how is this world going to learn and change with out plejarens learership and how the consel works for you...at least half of this worlds population beleaves in ET's now... show them ... us that your human.. but do it at a far...TV... just tell earth the truth ... in time they will learn....300 years the plejarens have been here and yet i dont see where you have been a benafit to earth just by talking to one person and mind thinking to 2 women...by now you should know what steps to take and who to take them with... you know by doing the right thing at the right time can make all of the right changes for this greedy humanity...... maybe i see now that you see this world as being hopeless do to you took a jump into the future... but yet your all still here you havnt 100% pulled out of this world...not all of man kind would demand offical contact with the plejarens are whoever...just pick out the need to know people of earth... after all you have watch our TV broadcasts, talk to the world in this way...COME ON ... your advanced by more than 21 million years but yet your thinking like your only 3500 years advanced than us...it needs repeating so it can sink in... ya think...

--Mrnorm 21:14, 19 September 2011 (BST)

Markvd said ...

They have given every opportunity to change our fate but we didnt' listen. I guess you could say we aren't educated enough yet to comprehend common sense. There are many levels of understanding, once we reach a certain HIGH level of understanding as a whole then we may be rewared with new adventures. First we must conquer our rather simple meager problems on Earth. If we can't solve elemtary level decision making how can we wisely upgrade ahead of our time. :) You also have to take into account this is the free will universe guidelines thus by laws of creation no manipulation can take place under certain circumstances.

--Markvd 04:16, 20 September 2011 (BST)

Mrnorm said ...

Who is this "we didnt lison people" THE problem is ,is that it was said at a wisper... that wisper didnt get the rich&greedy peoples atension...now did it...theres lots of peoples lissoning out there and you know it...so dont use that for an excuce any longer...you got to stand on there breathing tube if you want to get them to lisson and change there ways ... theres got to be a buck in it for them... the "greedy"... all im asking is that the E T's show there face and be up front and honest with people of earth... and stop it with the GAMES...if we arent educated enough... Educate us...we wont reach this high level of understanding untill the Plejarens show there face to the right people...earth is just looking for guidence in the right direction...and not manipulation are any up grades ... your putting the carage before the horse, your making a mounton out of a moul hill... our way of thinking needs to be up graded and this needs to be done for the rich and greedy and powerfull...no more excuces with your 3500 advanced years way of thinking... where theres a way theres a free will...Our goverments dont know about your free will way of thinking... Ya Think ?

--Mrnorm 16:03, 20 September 2011 (BST)

Markvd said ...

That would be the normal response from current Earth education level. Give me what I have not earned. I suggest reading the spirit teachings in detail to further advance your thinking and then eventually................... in time and with patience, something lacking here on our planet Earth shall our problems be solved. If one were to show there face then the danger would be great would it not, imagine how many people would try to manipulate a fraction of there capabilities for incorrect purposes. If they cannot currently utilize the simplistic design in truth how can the with a straight eye utilize more complex abilities truthfully. I suggest each person find inner peace first and then venture out into other venues. :)

--Markvd 21:00, 20 September 2011 (BST)

Zameen said ...

mmmmm, Mrnorm your asking for the cut, the slice, the lift, the entry and finally, after the chewing(which you have finally done like a calf)expect us to taste it for you!! You are a knave.

--Zameen 02:11, 21 September 2011 (BST)

Mrnorm said ...

all im asking for is hold the carret in front of the horse ... its that simple,but first they have to see the carret maybe touch it to see if its real ... sure they will try to take advantage of the happenings ... how many times have i read that the ET's have talk to people on earth though out the centurys...and comunacate with outher worlds of all advances of education... well thats all ive ever been asking..comunacating, not passing on of secrets of any kind... im just asking to tell the truth so the world can deal with it, that its.. seen and be heard... so how are we to be educated if theres no teacher...take the bible ,the new testament, 2000 years and they got it all bacaswords, they bend the truth...today and it always has been..church is for profit not spirit ...Im asking for talk ,communication ..nothing elce...again its that simple...the ET's have shown them selves for 1000's of years ...now be up front with it all...

--Mrnorm 16:00, 21 September 2011 (BST)

Markvd said ...

They have communicated and have guided us on how to reach a higher level. We learn the spirit teachings, implement them, evovle as a world, then who knows what happens next...............:) Imagine yourself an ET from another planet coming to a hostile mindset such as Earth that is unknowing of ET life and not even in the same zip code in terms of knowledge, would you want to meet up with those people. I wouldn't until they have paid there dues like every race in the cosmos.

--Markvd 20:31, 21 September 2011 (BST)

Mrnorm said ...

I see where in the future that contact with ET now or in the next 500 years still hasnt made any important changes to the future earth to any good degree and that were still barbarous in nature and in wars...and that money is being wasted on moon settelments ... so it appears what ever ET contact that takes place now and in the next 500 years has had Know effect for the spirit future of man...so it looks like there has not been any worth while contact to speak of ...discribing things of the future is like discribing a car from the out side but tells nothing of what makes it tick...you need to know the guts of it all,telling authors what things look like doesnt do a thing ...its sad to think that authors have no thought of there own to come up with ideas of there own... its like saying were going to have citys over the oceans are under oceans are under ground are in space are on the moon are two mile tall buildings... its called imagination...if authors want to help though the help of the ET"s you have to tell them how and what makes it tick... what makes it work...whats it for...ET needs to thought transfer to inventors ...But whos to say there not doing this already but maybe earths man kind is not capable with out ET"s intervention...thats right ...what intervention ...

--Mrnorm 16:31, 22 September 2011 (BST)

Markvd said ...

Problems that can be easily be solved by our leaders and governments can't be changed. The laws of creation don't allow manipulation as they do on our planet. That is maybe why they have not allowed a singel ET race to come to Earth because the manipulative energy they possess is very negative to the cosmos. It's like nature itself the development of man, a tree doesn't always bask in the limelight, it must endure through the tough weather and turbulent events yet most times it still hold strong. Time will tell if Earth has capable minds that can endure. :)

--Markvd 19:34, 22 September 2011 (BST)

Toni said ...

please change: Erra is 1.0003 times the amount to 1.00003 This is the correct value page 234 at the new Semjase contact block. Thanks.

--Toni 23:50, 14 June 2012 (BST)