Talk:My Understanding of the Spirit Lessons, by Thomas Hall
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Jamesm said ...
Alive said ...
"This void contained nothing but the finest form of energy without any substance."
If the void contains anything, it is not a void. I suggest to replace "void" with "something".
---- M -- 10:28, 1 May 2011 (BST)
Hawaiian said ...
Good attempt to describe the spiritual lessons but are full of missing or illogical assumptions. I have cut and pasted several sources directly from this website to illustrate Thomas Hall’s brief summary of this most complex topic which obviously needs much more comprehensive analysis on his part. Therefore it is best for others to think logically for yourself and reference the unedited original materials, DO NOT depend on others in deciding what is the Truth. I could have spent some time editing his posting which contains many missing or erroneous statements, but choose instead to reference the exact materials where he got his summary from so that others can compare it directly with the hopes of drawing our own conclusions. We only hope his attempt was honest and not designed to deceive others from BEAM’s and our attempt for evolution. Hawaiian From the FIGU Forum (Questions Answered by Billy): It seems to me that the unfathomable mystery is the Void, the great nothingness "outside" of Creation and presumably its source. I read that there is some sort of fine energy even in the Void, which is also confusing because it seems like it must only be the Creation which is "alive" and is/has energy. I am unable to understand a nothingness without beginning, end, shape, limits, energy, etc. What is known of this by Billy, the Plejaren, the Petale level, etc. and "where" in the Void did the Absolute Absolutum first appear?
ANSWER: The absolute void or nothingness is an infinite space which contains no material form but spiritual energy only. We cannot comprehend or understand all of this with our thinking/brains.[1] References 1. ↑ http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/2685.html?1006823994
(Search under “Absolutum forms, The” and select title “How did our universe and our world came into existence”) The universe originated from an ancient, archetypal bang, produced by a minuscule but highly compressed, flea-sized ball of energy. Originally this energy consisted of purely spiritual energy which created itself from within, although even it can be traced back to an Ur-Universe's energy conception [Ur = is a German prefix which means archetypal, most ancient or original in English]. A universe is also called a "Creation" or a "Universal Consciousness" and so forth, of which exist 1049 variations. The least evolved Creational form is called a Creation-Universe and the next higher form is an Ur-Creation or Ur-Universe; the one following is called a Central Creation or Central Universe, etc. The ultimate of all Creational forms is the 1049, called the Absolute Absolutum. This Absolute Absolutum was the initial Creational form which created Itself from the Absolute Void by way of the Primary Big Bang, thereupon It embarked on Its path through 1049 different main Creational forms before becoming the Absolute Absolutum. Thereafter It wafts in non-space as the highest of the highest Creational forms and continues to endlessly expand and evolve through the wisdom of all Creations which unite with It once each individual Creation achieves a status of being an Absolute Absolutum as well. Not one Creational form is absolutely perfect, not even the Absolute Absolutum. Creational forms, just as life itself, can only achieve a relative type of perfection over their evolutionary course through processes of constant waxing and waning and waxing again that characterize all life.
Absolutum-forms The, Wake: 311,040,000,000,000 (currently the first level in which our Universe is right now, more then 1/7 of this time has already passed, >46,000,000,000,000 years (rough number - Sleep: 311,040,000,000,000
Wake: 2,177,280,000,000,000 (First purely spiritual existence of Creation, no coarse-material matter present) - Sleep: 2,177,280,000,000,000 5 more higher evolved Creations left out to save space in webmaster James Moore vast reservoir of knowledge media vehicle….J
What is the true purpose of our life? The purpose of our life is for us to evolve - the advancement and continued development of our being at a constant pace to ever-higher levels. The purpose of evolution lies within the concept of achieving the highest possible human development, including love, harmony, ability, knowledge and wisdom. Evolution not only serves to bring human entities to a high level of knowledge and wisdom so they may lead a life in harmony with Creation's laws and commandments and the like: Through our evolution we also assist Creation with Its own evolution. Just as humans and nearly all life is in need of evolutionary advancement, so, too, is Creation, the Universal Consciousness. Even Creation is only relatively perfect and It must evolve to ascend to higher forms of Its own existence. And to achieve Its objective, Creation requires human beings who evolve over the course of billions of years into pure-spirit-forms and from these into still higher forms of existence, extending through to the Petale level. There occurs the transition into Creation, into the Universal Consciousness, and transpires the unification, the "becoming one." In this manner Creation assimilates these former human spirit forms, which have by then evolved to their own highest level and which, initially, had originated from Creation in order for It to evolve through these human entities. During their unification with Creation, all the accumulated knowledge and wisdom are also absorbed by Creation, and thus It elevates Its own evolution by a fraction of an iota, and advances some time later into the next higher Creation level. After an incredibly long time, this subsequent Creation continues evolving until it becomes one with the Absolute Absolutum. The Absolute Absolutum is the highest level and all-encompassing form a Creation can attain, and yet even the Absolute Absolutum must continue Its evolution process into all-Great-Time and chronological endlessness
--Hawaiian 20:31, 1 May 2011 (BST)
Hawaiian said ...
To James Moore,
I noticed that the separation lines & spaces induced between topics appear to disappear when posting here on this site, it makes things "gumbled up" and hard to read. Can something be done about it? Mahalo
Hawaiian
--Hawaiian 20:36, 1 May 2011 (BST)
Jamesm said ...
Alive, good point, I'll talk to Thomas about that if he doesn't respond here.
Hawaiian, Thomas's effort appears to be very honest because he has been posting at the FIGU forum since at least 2001 and has asked Billy many questions there too. Sure there is plenty of room for improvement and I agree that its a good attempt. Its admittedly better than I could do with my limited knowledge.
It great education that we are discussing this article.
--Jamesm 21:39, 1 May 2011 (BST)
Jamesm said ...
Hawaiian blank lines will be shown as intended as long as you actually do ensure that you include a blank line by pressing the enter key twice to create a new paragraph rather than just once. Is that what you mean?
--Jamesm 21:41, 1 May 2011 (BST)
Alive said ...
Maybe the void mentioned by Thomas Hall is a different name he used for "seeming nothingness" and "non-space" mentioned by mister Billy in Contact Report 260 (http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_260).
---- M -- 21:45, 1 May 2011 (BST)
Stephaniewbrooker said ...
Very informative! I appreciate the explanations and it does open my eyes to a little more than I could understand yesterday! Keep up the good work!
--Stephaniewbrooker 19:15, 3 May 2011 (BST)
Thomas,
Are you sure this bit is right?
"and all the knowledge and wisdom from all previous incarnations is stored in the brain acids of the current body in order to be available under certain conditions throughout the current lifetime."
I think that all the knowledge is only stored in the "storage banks", AKA "overall consciousness-block" (OCB), the new name for the CCB.
Acronyms ahoy!
Thanks, James
--Jamesm 00:34, 1 May 2011 (BST)