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Talk:Human being of the Earth

2013-07-18T21:39:54Z

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== Frank said ... ==

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What Billy is saying here is no more than what all of us know but dont practice.....this to me is just another distraction to DOING what I believe should be done. Talking a good game is just that! a good talk....everyone has this abillity.....next!

--Frank 23:14, 4 June 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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To Frank: So why DID you post anything here at all? get back to work! (just being frank.)

--Zameen 23:23, 4 June 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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.... only those that really understood behave after their knowledge..... "Wenn es in Fleisch und Blut übergeht".....
Honestly :) globally we do not much better behave than our ancestors the romans, or the european settlers that came to north/south america, in an ethical, moral and human way, only the methods changed and our doing is better covered and disguised and hided also because of our sophisticated media and entertainment industry..... therefore the majority only sees 30 % of what is really happening in the world. To say: "We know all this, but no one is practicing it." is only a cheap excuse with double meaning. For one we think we already know everything, but in reality we did not understand anything. Second one presumes that all the others know it but do not do anything, so why should i do something, because one alone can not do anything,..... what an illusion and a simple excuse to continue like before.

By the way, we are not only talking here but also living it. :)

OM Kanon 32 Vers 106. "Ueber wertlose Dinge macht der Mensch grossen Lärm und grosses Geschrei, über die Weisheit und Wahrheit und über das Wissen und die Liebe schweigt er, denn durch sine Dummheit erkennt er ihren grossen Wert nicht."

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 08:23, 6 June 2010 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Quick translation of that quote:

"About worthless things the human makes big noise and big outcry; about the wisdom and truth and the knowledge and the love he's silent, because due to his stupidity he does not recognise their great value."

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 18:33, 6 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I know when I first read the contact reports I was a bit skeptical as well Frank. I thought what the hell are they doing about any of these problems. I think everybody that reads something can interpret it in a different way. I presume that your meaning of "DOING" is for Billy and his Plejaren friends to fix all our wrongs. Correct me if I'm wrong. I read many times Billy ask his Plejaren friends to try and intervene or if they could do something. It's like the people of today, they do something wrong and don't man up to it. If people would take responsibility rather than finding a bailout plan every time they do wrong, our world would be better. WE have to create and shape our own world. I find it rather laughable that we want to advance in technology and fly into space when our current living quarters has a lot of growing up to do.

--Mark 19:35, 6 June 2010 (BST)
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== Childless said ... ==

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I recognized the problems of over population at a young age and detrimed that I would not produce any offspring. If even half the population would do this we as humans would be on the right path to saving our own existance. There are many children who are orphans and if one can not live without children this is a good choice to make.

--Childless 14:33, 22 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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After reading many of your posting, besides BEAM's and the Plejaren contact notes along with some personal observations, one has concluded that Earth humans as well as others, through its various stages of evolution(s), be it re-incarnations of both Earthly, Lyrian and other advanced ET's that encompass a rather inter-mixed, inter-related web of intricate relationship(s) that connects each entity whether material or non-material, each has certain "potentials", depending on the quality parameters that shaped it's existence on the value of it's positive and/or negative connections that will equally determine its evolutionary rate through the Cause & Effect or the Not-Cause & Not-Effect criteria.

It's this inter-change between fine and material energies that are "normally" conditioned to evolve naturally by Creational parameters, but evolution will often be determined by other avenues if violations continue without the proper logical and humane intervention by the powers to be that have the authority to ensure balance and harmony. This route for those having to fend for themselves are available when they recognize and couple their "equational potentials" to bring about the necessary changes in order to address the wrongs, manipulation, exploitation of generations of abuse.

True, the Earth population as a whole is not a prime candidate for such attributes, but certainly not only the prophets have these characteristics as well, some outside of these parameters have the necessary "equational potentials" to focus such energies that do have the proper pre-requisites to illicit a discharge that will balance the unequal forces which have plagued Earth for so long.

Such examples have already been utilized by the Orions, who first build the Egyptian pyramids finishing the top section by coupling their telekinstics abilities.

Then you have a more recent, yet intriguing event described on pages 7-10 by a former US Army remote viewer named Lyn Buchanan in "The Seventh Sense", when provoked by a fellow soldier who sabotaged his computer presentation to his NATO commanders during the cold war era. Buchanan's anger shut down the entire NATO and Warsaw pact's computer intelligence network, which if true, does indeed indicate the "potential" yet to be discovered in other Earth humans.

However, caution should be warned to those seeking evil manipulation of such "potentials", for feedback does occur with very destructive results. Maybe when this becomes a threat to other non-Earthlings, then intervention may occur, but need that be the case if properly and logically examined by those that have the technology?

The Plejaren and their allies are already, in a more passive way, engaging in the Peace Meditation process, but has have little effect on the insane behaviors on Earth. We have witness the passive effects on the Giza intelligences, who still wreaked havoc in spite of such measures, but only when physically removed, then their evil ways stopped, but its deadly effects continue for another 200-300 years. Maybe its time for more drastic measures that really addresses the root of the problems? And it does not require direct intervention, just the proper "impulses" and appropriate protective inputs as described above in the "web of intricate inter-connections" that are also linked within dimensions through the Cause and Effect relationships.

--Hawaiian 02:05, 23 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I read your latest comment and was wondering if what you meant was that Earth humanity should be given certain abilites such as telekinesis, mind reading, future interpretation, that they should use it to help man or should these be given to certain individuals. I don't think that would be the best idea. I think like Billy said this is the material state of being and a very early one at that. If we can't handle simple equations such as drilling holes in the Earth which causes natural disasters. I don't think anyone will possess such qualities will be known out there publicly. Imagine what the greedy would do with such capabilities. I think that level of evolution should be reserved for those that understand the effects of what capabilities they possess. I did read that through the universe and it's comedic side some people or as most would call degenerates have acquired some unique capability from one of the contact reports, if they do I sure hope they would never aid those that are not worthy of such tremendous skills. I believe most of our problems really just require a few things, common sense, patience, planning ahead, and utilizing the cause and effect theory in all of our decision making.

--Mark 05:29, 23 June 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Dear Hawaiian,

If you kew what the peace meditation already did for good things you would not say that it had only little effect in the course of history ;) ...... I say only Gorbatschof and Berlin wall...

Good words Mark. :))

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 10:41, 23 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Both Mark and Neckel fail to "read" between the lines, simply because you have not yet realize your potentials, study the post more carefully, then the awareness will reveal itself. I know first hand what effects the Peace Meditation has "influenced" since its beginning. Its a passive response from some who can avoid direct intervention since they were responsible as former religious ringleaders as these were accepted into the folds of the Plejarens long ago.

I have just given you and others an example of such "potentials", yet you fail to recognize such abilities that are dormant for those who have such attributes. Why you may ask that such concepts are not listed (as far as I know) in creational laws is the simple fact that as presented by the Plejarens, these laws have to evolve further in order to adequately address the unique circumstances on Earth where Creational Laws have been prostituted by advanced ET's for their benefit at the expense of Earth humans.

Here is one of a few examples, we know that the Plejarens had the opportunity to present an option (if they even considered it?) to those doomed ET's responsible for the mass suicide occurring at Tunguska, forbidden by their home worlds to return or provide technical assistance, because ancestors brought back from Earth the insane religious beliefs a thousand years ago to their home worlds causing death and destruction. It was the same religious insanity that currently plague Earth to this day, mainly from the Giza intelligences, thus here offers a golden opportunity for the Plejarens to take advantage of solving two problems at the same time, but they chose other wise and allowed these ET's to kill themselves and be condemned to this Earth accomplishing nothing. Yet, if they were allowed this other option of redemption, how would things have panned out?

Certainly these ET's would have rounded up the Giza much earlier and Earth would have a much better chance to evolve spiritually, but no...we are here again, on the brink of WW3 and other degenerative events that threaten us every day.

One has to envision this complex "equation" within "equations", along with the Cause & Effect in conjunction to its negative counter-part, the Not-Cause and Not Effect which is listed in the above statement (Tunguska). It is very difficult to describe in words and would be better explained in graphical presentations, where dimensions can be branched off, then re-connected in time zones. But in a nut shell, picture where you stand along with your past personalities, events and the cross roads that determine your attributes, then connect that to all the Cause/Effect episodes along with the Not-Cause and Not-Effect circumstances to see where your "equational potentials" lay in order to reference your options. Creational laws are NOT chiseled in stone to remain unchanged, especially so when dealing with solutions to uncreational results. Being so stagnates the evolution of Creation itself.

--Hawaiian 19:26, 23 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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You keep on commenting about how the Tunguska event occured and how the ET's can ONLY reincarnate of Earth. Reading the contact reports, Asket clearly said that if you were born, realized or created in the DERN universe, you shall only be reborn in the entirety of the DERN universe. The DERN universe to my knowledge is rather vast in size. Those ET's that met there fate could be born into the overpopulated Akart for all we know. They haven't clearly said how or where people's spirit ends up but I believe I read it stays in a spiritual block for around 155 years which we won't even know about because they say that it's like a timeless occurance I believe.

--Mark 20:35, 23 June 2010 (BST)
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== hilliard said ... ==

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Thanks for everything, to each I give my thanks. In Northern Ontario Canada the earth chaukras have stopped spinning. For hope check out www.Dr.Cha.com. He has the same answers to our 1`500 years of darkness. I do not want to distract from Billy great work but to add hope and a way. Love to each always.

--hilliard 04:02, 1 July 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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hilliard: there are no chakras or chaukras. you may ask"what's all this aboot?"Just keep reading and it will all come out in a fine material, and course material wash!

--Zameen 05:08, 1 July 2010 (BST)
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== Brandon43 said ... ==

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Humans in places of absolute power are the antithesis to everything that is free. The Human will not change without divine intervention. The indoctrination of competition and greed is so pervasive in our psyches, something must be broken within us and it is maddening. I speak out of frustration and I know I should not, but none the less, I feel compelled. The senseless slaughter and murder of endless innocents, I simply cannot fathom any longer as having purpose or providing any useful instruction. It is truly heart breaking and insane. I will pray for us and improve on myself as a result of these things.

--[[User:Brandon43|Brandon43]] ([[User talk:Brandon43|talk]]), 04:30, 18 July 2013 (CEST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Brandon: What are you doing here? Praying is a useless practice. haven't you figured that out yet?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] ([[User talk:Zameen|talk]]), 23:39, 18 July 2013 (CEST)
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Talk:Contact Report 215

2013-02-12T23:09:04Z

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== Sarah said ... ==

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Starting to sound like Europe would be the better country to live. Better a slightly damaged country, than no country...I guess? Although ideally we can avoid this too if we can.

--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 10:10, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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A world should not need specific areas to traverse, if the leaders were genuine in there intent and development of each country all places should be at a balanced state. Unfortunately if there is any form of chaos or incorrectiness you will see that bad economy, overpopulation, bad weather prevail as it currently is over all of humanity. Only we can change our course stop daydreaming of some wonderouse miracle that shall never come, if there is a miracle to happen we will make it happen by eliminating all bad habits and capability for those that have no morals to step down from atop there positions which they truly do not deserve. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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I would rather live on that mountain where Gabriel appears from the heavens to sit and watch the destruction.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 05:41, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Cat said ... ==

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Well batten down the hatches everyone cos Pope Benedict has resigned!! It's going to be a very rough ride.

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] ([[User talk:Cat|talk]]), 17:17, 11 February 2013 (GMT)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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This is crazy! Is the Cardinal from Ghana whose name is Peter, going to be named? If so, is he merely an interim replacement for the Peter of Rome? Has the church Acknowledged the Henoch prophecies? Is my hair on fire? Still, at this point contact #215 is still rather vague during this moment in time. I suppose we shall see.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] ([[User talk:Zameen|talk]]), Orlando, fl., 23:09, 12 February 2013 (GMT)
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Talk:Summary of Contents for Meier's FROM THE DEPTHS OF SPACE... CONTACTS WITH THE PLEIADIANS/PLEJARENS, Internet, June 2009

2012-12-17T06:07:07Z

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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 04:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)Much more comprehensive and informative, I really appreciate the "degestable" format and believe others do also! However on 211-212, I think the population on Erra is around 470 million and 127 billion represents the number of individuals belonging to the Plejaren Alliance.

Erra must be a wonderful and peaceful place to live, the birds there are probably happy and not stressed/depressed as those here on Earth!
== Suv said ... ==

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At pages 32-51- "...A special task for Meier is to be humble and to create an unassailable psyche.." should be more like "...A special task for Meier is to be selfless and to create an unassailable psyche..."?

--Suv 19:52, 25 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I wonder if Akart is part of the federation because if it does, that doesn't count. That's 20 billion right there. They can travel through space so there chances are pretty good I guess or are they on the tryout list. :) I sure would love to try out some of there best recipes. I'm sure all the power hungry people want tech but I want food.

--Mark 22:12, 25 June 2010 (BST)
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== Aiwass said ... ==

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Thanks for this fantastc summary, but for God's sake, give this text to an English native speaker for checking because it is badly translated and therefore loses its credibility...

--[[User:Aiwass|Aiwass]] 10:09, 20 August 2011 (BST)
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== Marcel said ... ==

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Hello , I saw you did some errors in this presentation of Billy meier information ; the lineage created humans 12 billions years ago didn't start from Henok whom was a prophet 10.000 years ago , started from NOKODEMION , whom created the human lineage .

Salome .Marcel

--[[User:Marcsalome|Marcsalome]] ([[User talk:Marcsalome|talk]]), Toronto , Canada , 18:06, 14 December 2012 (GMT)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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dog is done.no more hocus pocus. that is all.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] ([[User talk:Zameen|talk]]), u.s., 06:07, 17 December 2012 (GMT)
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Talk:DERN Universe

2012-10-15T22:06:04Z

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== David P.Curcione said ... ==

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! The Umverse True Age is not: (13,500,000 Years ld too! It"s alot older too! P.S. The True Age is Around about (46,000,000,000,000 0ld too! The Year is in (B.C.E )too!! The Earth age is Around )4,500,000,000 Years old too! THE son of GOD WAS BORN ON Earth IN israil MATIOM ABOUT 2010 years age in 1 A.D. too!

--David P.Curcione 20:36, 5 May 2010 (BST)
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== zameen said ... ==

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I think maybe you wandered into the wrong site my friend. Please check the info contained here and give it some good thought! Salome

--zameen 22:09, 5 May 2010 (BST)
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== Guadalupejoe said ... ==

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i believe this 110%....my contact friends the zeta reticulans are part of this universe as well as all of us...joe

--[[User:Guadalupejoe|Joe]] 06:31, 20 April 2012 (BST)
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== Tianlynn said ... ==

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The statement of "Approximately 1,500,000,000,000 years after the Big Bang the first solid matter came into existence. " is wrong and could be caused by a misunderstanding of "Ptaah 660:Approximately 1,500,000,000,000 years. " in contact repro 238. Actually, Ptaah was answering how long it took for the first solid material to come into existence AFTER first fine matter began to change into its transitional form. It's not after Big Bang. Article "Event Timeline" has the correct understanding.

--[[User:Tianlynn|tianlynn]] ([[User talk:Tianlynn|talk]]), 09:06, 11 October 2012 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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I was just looking at www.disclose.tv when an advert appeared for Michael horns new movie and it stated that Amy Horn is his 22 year old wife. I thought she was his daughter. can someone clarify please?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] ([[User talk:Zameen|talk]]), 23:06, 15 October 2012 (BST)
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Talk:How can I help?

2012-07-15T03:33:06Z

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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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I cannot translate the information but my family has a friend in Germany named Heinzbernd Padberg who has learned broken english and regularly contacts my parents and myself for holiday greetings and may be able to assist. Please contact me at sweet6b9@yahoo.com if you still require any assistance with this and I can contact him and see if he would be interested.

Sincerely,
Kevin Gaylord

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:11, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Low&Key said ... ==

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I am new age human.There is no temptation for me but food for my tempel.Everything informatiev i read of hear it feels like i told it because i understand wat needs to be understood but still i learn every moment more about the proceses of the universe.I have no one to share this knowlege with because is to complicated for the people around me.That´s why i contact you , if youre interest i would like to converse with you ?

--[[User:Low&Key|Low&Key]] 20:07, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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Low&Key - are you asking to talk to me or Billy?

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 09:10, 3 May 2012 (BST)
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== ajay said ... ==

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If reptilians do not exist then tell me why Dr. johnathan Reed
encounted this alien in the woods? This video is on youtube.com
when you search for "johnathan reed"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgzY45odAO0

--[[User:Jay1010101|Jay1010101]] 02:45, 14 July 2012 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Looks more like an android to me.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 17:49, 14 July 2012 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Sounds like another case of dellusional asperations of those who precieve their dreams as some reality between themselves and some ET interaction presence.

He speaks of this ET "Freddie" as fearing earth humans because he considers them as low sub-culture beings of unpredictable behaviours.

Nothing constructive coming from this and the only assistance I would recommend is to take your medications and not spend too much time by yourself in a empty room where your mind is left to wander to dream up these fallacies. Creational laws and directives have already been properly addressed by BEAM and the Plejarens, why should some other ET, in this case "Freddie" be allowed to present any additional information on spiritual evolution or develpment to an insignificant person who is not a prophet with the spiritual incarnation of Nokodemjon, the oldest spirit form on Earth with direct connections to the pure spiritual realms of the first of seventh, the Arahat Athersata level?

This exercise does not make much sense at all other than to be aware of false teachings.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 03:30, 15 July 2012 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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I'll be here all week.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 04:33, 15 July 2012 (BST)
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Talk:Contact Report 443

2012-07-14T04:27:13Z

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== Reginald said ... ==

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The comments of Ptaah are a bit harsh are they not? History was my favourite subject at school. And I have been reading Eich von Däniken and Zacharia Sitchin. The first Von Däniken's are interesting mindblowing conceptions. At least they made people aware and think, that history might have been differently from what we have learned at school. So the more i browse the contactreports the more i get the impression Ptaah has turned into an older and frustrated man. Sorry to say. Nothing a nice vacation in holland could not cure.

--Reginald 14:56, 2 May 2010 (BST)
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== Lorita said ... ==

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I find that a fair amount of the comments regarding humans/potentials, etc rather harsh but we were warned we might not like all we read/hear. This isn't a fairy tale.

--Lorita 05:27, 22 May 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I presume they are referring to the V series on TV. :) I would rather be taken over by large dinosaurs, rather than disguised reptiles who pose as humans. j/k It's all about the money with these storytellers. One thing our dear planet Earth has is storytellers. If you want to hear the most untrue stories in the universe. Come one, come all beings of Dern or any other universe. I wouldn't be surprised if other beings from space trying to take over Earth, overall I would give our defense a rating of clumsical. We are improving though.

--Mark 20:19, 22 May 2010 (BST)
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== Jay1010101 said ... ==

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Reptilian do exist, the Annunaki story may be true, check out htis video proof of Johnathan Reed on youtube at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKCq1ISd7zY&feature=related

--[[User:Jay1010101|Jay1010101]] 02:56, 14 July 2012 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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jay: nope

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 05:27, 14 July 2012 (BST)
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Talk:FIGU Special Bulletin 034

2012-07-14T04:26:47Z

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== Jay1010101 said ... ==

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Reptiltians do exist: check out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKCq1ISd7zY&feature=related

--[[User:Jay1010101|Jay1010101]] 02:59, 14 July 2012 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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jay: NOPE

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 05:26, 14 July 2012 (BST)
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Talk:FIGU Special Bulletin 20

2012-05-03T01:34:04Z

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== Alive said ... ==

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Considering how close MIB persons to mister Billy, I guess MIB organization has somekind of quarter in Switzerland to run surveillance on mister Billy, in cooperation with Swiss intelligence office, funded by old-NAZI, neo-NAZI, postmodernist-NAZI, and contemporary-NAZI, which have accounts in Swiss money laundry banks. I read somewhere a letter from an American intelligence officer for Wendelle Stevens which said that mister Billy is observed by several intelligence offices, including Swiss's. I still do not get it why NAZI freaks and Swiss financial gangsters hate mister Billy, since mister Billy never stole their coins and exposed their financial frauds.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 20:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Alive said ... ==

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I want to say something about Kalliope. This is what happened to the jealous wives and sometimes also happened to the jealous girlfriends. After they became ex-wives and ex-girlfriends they will deny many facts which are parts of their own experiences. In extreme cases they even denied that they have ever met the men they used to love. I wish in the far future there will be no more troubled wive and troubled girlfriend in DERN universe, so the husbands and boyfriends could develop their Egos peacefully. But I always know that most of my wishes were not based on reality and did not take historical facts into consideration.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 20:49, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I would agree so, reminds me one early morning about 4 AM waiting for the sun to be up so we could start trolling for the big yellow tin tuna after a night of successful ocean bottoming fishing. We caught several hundred pounds of red snappers and were just enjoying the peaceful calm ocean about 8-10 miles from land when the CB radio cracked alive with traffic.
[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:19, 5 March 2011 (UTC) (correction "yellow fin tuna" not "tin"?) we caught one that day about 115 pounds, medium size

On the other end was some bitchy wife telling her husband to run some errands when he got back on land, she could easily told him to call her when he arrived, but no everyone on that channel could hear that poor guy getting hen pecked! Maybe that’s the reason why he chose to go fishing to get some peace of mind.

Makes one wonder why that black flag with the symbolic ball and chain icon and warning “Wife’s Onboard” is so similar to a pirate’s black flag with the skull and bones?

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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I wonder what the genuine dinosaur photos look like in the 2001 edition of Pleiadian/Plejaren Contact Reports Block No. 1? They must be quite fascinating photos but are they clear?

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 02:05, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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MIB utilized hypnosis to universal remote control the mind of people of Earth. Those folks are dedicated to try and get Billy and fail 21 times. I wonder how they discovered there hideout, they probably utilized some of Asket's 007 gear and thwarted there schemes. I wonder if they could create some type of mental barrier so people are not so easily controlled by malevolent forces. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:15, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi Hawaiian, people deserve what they are willing to put up with. If your friend couldn't stick up for himself, that's his problem. Believe me, there are just as many bitchy husbands as there are bitchy wives.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 22:34, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Sheila,

Yeah you're right, I was thinking of cutting in on the radio and telling her off, but it was not my boat so had to respect the captain on that account. I did not know that guy was, some other fisherman who should have done what you said...

It's too bad us Earth humans are not like the Plejarens in this respect, they don't have the mother-in-law interference problem that are so apparent here.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
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Hi James,

I added the photos from the book for you to see. My digital camera was in its highest resolution auto focus mode when I snapped the shots. Thus, if some of the pictures look fuzzy, that's how fuzzy they actually appear in the book.

--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 03:29, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Thanks Ben! Fascinating! Strange how the humans are photographed exactly side-on. Some would say it was taken from a book or something but theyre still plausibly real photos of planet Neber.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 19:39, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Our world is full of strategic baffoons that want to learn more utilizing treacherous means such as setups and falsifications. Pay it no mind as they tend to do this to either destroy all hope in BEAM's work or to learn more by accusation, thus propelling BEAM to prove himself over time and again. You can only teach blind corrupted spirits if you teach them humbly how to accept such creative wonders as planets that have dinosaurs. They will use every tilt and means to defy truth at times only to deny all of humanity freedom. Thus enslaving humanity themselves due to there false accusations. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 18:21, 25 April 2012 (BST)
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== Cat said ... ==

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Is the top picture (with the pyramids) supposed to contain dinosaurs or not? If so, it's incredible that man could live among dinosaurs - long enough to build those structures! Then again, more advanced planets may build their pyramids much quicker with sound and levitation than it took our people thousands of years ago.

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 19:38, 25 April 2012 (BST)
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== TROLL ERA said ... ==
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*Cleaned up the pollution. Not worth reading.

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Christian,

Your comment is not only very christian, but also successfully represent the best things of Romanian cultural heritage that you are always proud of. You should develop your comment into a comprehensive treatise and publish it in the form of booklet. The whole world is waiting for your enlightenment.

Preliminary Postscript

I need some materials to help me understanding the Romanian culture better. Please send me a tiny part of your gigantic collection of Romanian bitches photographs. Thank you for your time and noble attention.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 07:41, 27 April 2012 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Don't worry about me, delusional Troll Era, genital issues are the least of my worries. But you obviously have genital issues that you should get looked after. You seem rather obsessed. What I expose my kids to is truth, ethics and standing up for oneself. I hope you’re happy because I exposed your rant to one of my kids and the response was what a fucked up piece of crap you are. What can I say, kids are always right 

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:58, 27 April 2012 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Christian,

I will not respond to your comment anymore unless you send me the photographs of your bitchy Romanian cousins.

Extraordinary Postscript

Do not forget to attach their biodata (name, birth place, birth date, height, weight, hobbies, native language, and religion).

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 06:31, 28 April 2012 (BST)
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== RemR said ... ==

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Dear person who hides behind the anonymous Internet name of 'Newb Slayer',

What is it that you actually gain by sitting there and typing such viciously disrespectful comments on here? You are spending quite a bit of your time and focusing your energy on being a very mean person to people you don't even know. Why do you do it?

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 20:31, 28 April 2012 (BST)
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== Cat said ... ==

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Do we have to put up with this disgusting behaviour on this forum? Can't someone block these posts before they go through? I know they are instant but perhaps a new system is needed? TROLL ERA is a raving lunatic on here and out in public he would be avoided no doubt and locked up going on like that so maybe he is psychopathic? His continual references of a sexual nature are indicative of a very disturbed individual indeed and previous incarnations must have been horrific. I don't bother even reading his posts - they aren't worth it. Take him and throw away the key.

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 22:11, 28 April 2012 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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And that my friends, is one reason why the extraterrestrials don't bother landing on the White House lawn....I'm sure you can figure out the others.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 22:05, 30 April 2012 (BST)
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== Cat said ... ==

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James, thanks for that but I do believe he'll make a comeback. Same channel, different name etc

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 19:46, 1 May 2012 (BST)
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== RemR said ... ==

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If he does, there's a saying, "Don't feed the trolls."

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 20:08, 1 May 2012 (BST)
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== Cat said ... ==

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Is TROLL ERA/Newb Slayer the one starting all these new user names? Psychopathic behaviour indeed.

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 06:54, 2 May 2012 (BST)
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== RemR said ... ==

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Who knows... But yeah, who has been starting all these new user names is a good question, which I have been wondering about for a while now! I really doubt it is all completely new and random people every time.
Is someone getting paid to do it?
Do they think it is going to override the server because of space?
What a waste of time and energy, if it is one or a few people!

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 08:22, 2 May 2012 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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I guess there are 2 human life forms create new user names without writing any comment. One of them is a female human life form. The other one is Christian AKA Slayer AKA Troll AKA Minimefetishes AKA Bondagerobot AKA Hemaphrodite. Maybe he is in Canada, maybe in Romania. It would be nice to see them marrying each other and create goblins and cyclops.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 18:37, 2 May 2012 (BST)
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== Cat said ... ==

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Alive - no it wouldn't! And if they do reproduce, make sure it's on another planet of trolls will you?

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 18:52, 2 May 2012 (BST)
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== RemR said ... ==

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Haha, what a strange hypothetical situation...

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 20:22, 2 May 2012 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I think the troll will certainly be back, he appears to take a special interest in Sheila responses that often throws him into warp orbit in some mind chaotic ramblings on human sexuality that even animals won't dare get into..

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 21:33, 2 May 2012 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Maybe he just hates women for some reason.

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 23:27, 2 May 2012 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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His stream of consciousness rambling is indicative of a disturbed mind. While I am repelled by his disgusting posts, I feel bad for him because he's probably truly alone.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 02:34, 3 May 2012 (BST)
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Talk:Contact Report 007

2012-03-13T21:47:50Z

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== Reginald said ... ==

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They can travel through time and still not save these scripts? Or copy them at least. Or beam the script and the man aboard!

--Reginald 17:03, 1 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I remember reading one time that some things must be approved by the High Council, and I don't know if they approved attaining the scripts, but this report is not up to date so who knows what lies in the depths of planet earth and all it's treasures of knowledge. Don't go searching for that script now Reginald and become a rockstar or anything. :)

--Mark 20:11, 1 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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To Reginald,

Yes, the Plejarens could have just done what you suggested, but that never happened, so Billy had to get the revised version from the Petale level. An extra effort after experiencing a breakdown caused by unreasonable demands by the Plejaren themselves.

On more than a few occasions, the Plejarens have displayed thoughtless "logic" adhering to their non-interference directives, that has caused more problems for Earth humans to "resolve" had they not logically think the "solution" out before remaining on the sidelines, case in point;

1 - As in this case of Rashid, the Plejaren also irresponsibly demanded too much from Billy which also killed him as a result.

2 - Did not intervene when the Sirian commandos began to "erase" all human-made structures on Mars after they arrested the Men in Black on Mars. In Contact Note 251, they mentioned back then, that Earth humans will soon discover the ancient ruins on Mars that will bring into question the religious dogmas. But now it has been erased, makes it more difficult to prove otherwise, thus makes Billy's mission more difficult as well.

3 - Did not intervene during the Tunguska event when a spacecraft with 4387 ET's through navigation error, brought them to Russian and could not leave because of technical difficulties. They created an atomic bomb and destroyed themselves, thus they are now condemned to the re-incarnation process here on Earth, when the Plejarens could have provided another option, but did not, because they are blinded by their own quest for evolution.

Here was a genuine opportunity to resolve a host of problems for both these ET's and Earth humans, who common problems traced back to religions and those that promoted it. Their home worlds were destroyed when their ancestors took the insane religious beliefs from Earth back there 1000 years ago.

Those that created these religious insanity were none other than the Giza Intelligences based under the pyramids. Instead of allowing such an opportunity go to waste, these ET's could have served a most useful endeavor and counter-act the evil Giza Intelligences, thus preventing WW1 and WW2 and also permitting their leaders back home to reconsider?

Sometimes I wonder how "logical" these Plejarens are, when they can't even see what's under their feet? Yes the foundation they stand on, created by the most honorable BEING/Being himself Nokodemjon who co-created the very ancestors of the Plejaren, Creator Overlords and others. It is this foundation of logical, humane intervention that supercedes any directives which enables one to evolve pass these self-imposed restrictions that inhibits both parties of this equation.

--Hawaiian 20:13, 1 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Hawaiian everyone can't do the Hula dance correctly at first but even higher and more knowledgeable beings can't make perfect decisions every time. Wars can be averted if money hungry people and those that wish to dominate don't reach the highest position so easily. I mean once you become a top official it's like taking candy from a baby, there should be an enormous amount of obstacles before anything is approved. Governments are set up so in a couple of years ANYONE can make it to the top and impose there will upon there people. If they had tougher requirements in leadership such as a very high education attainment, years of good humanitarian service and a certain age before becoming a rule creator things would be much better. It would also help if before approvign anything they discuss the possible good and bad outcomes thus they don't get surprised when chaos breaks out because they were too quick on the trigger. I also remember reading that the Plejarens cannot interfere with events within our jurisdiction unless of a possible destructive nature to the cosmos. They have kindly sent 7 prophets our way or the universe has and we turned them away with the profit power greedy seeking leaders. We are the only ones to blame for our problems.

--Mark 20:39, 1 June 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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I agree with Mark because the Plejaren are only Human and not some perfect god.Everybody can learn from their mistakes so they can correct these mistakes to the good.I feel very good that the Plejuran help us at all.What would it be like if there was only bad Aliens?

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 08:05, 6 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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In 1995 the Plejarens have officially withdrawn from Earthly missions, expect for the occasional visits and telepathic contacts with BEAM. So as I see it, we are again left to fend for ourselves, one question that I still ponder, are some of the evil 144,228 former ring leaders the "Sons and Daughters of Heavens", those responsible for the terrible religious dogmas on Earth were later accepted by the Plejaren in the past.

Thus, is it logical to assume that some of these Plejarens have a self interest in themselves, more so than the concern of these manipulated/degenerated Earth humans, since they have "fulfilled" their part through BEAM by the Creational materials he has written and now has left, contented with their "mission accomplished" endeavor?

Based on the past and current practices/attitudes of the Plejaren, I'm not sure if I would whole hearty accept them 100 percent genuine and compassionate, for self preservation, avoidance to open dialogue towards addressing their counterparts and steadfastly adhering to their "directives" often appears counter-productive and often creates more problems at hand.

Granted, I will credit them for the assistance given to both BEAM and Earthly matters, but they still have much to learn even if it means the destruction of Earth along with people like ourselves under the worst imposed conditions, trying in earnest to adhere to Creational methods, in my books is nothing less than abandonment!

However, as Billy once mentioned to Quetzal, "one day the Plejaren will be humbled and respect those that they feed with a big spoon".

--Hawaiian 19:42, 6 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Hawaiian I usually agree but it's like entering into every country and imposing our rules and time and everytime. A problem which is still going on today.:) If we can't figure out to help ourselves, how can we become any better. If they solve all our problems and fix every mistake we make, how can we learn? I am sure that they had there fair share of trouble makers as well like Ashtar Sheran who was a highly knowledgeable one that somehow chose a different path. They are by no means perfect, remember the caks ship being discontinued. I would call most of what they say as genuine because it is a universal matter of knowledge they are passing along not an egotistical self centered ideal. Would you want to speak to beings that have a LONG way to go in terms of mental development and don't use all there senses correctly. It's like talking to a wall. One day things will get better if everyone can jointly make decisions rather than pointing fingers all the time.

--Mark 22:50, 6 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Even more imperfections is there inability to have contact with dogs and cats at close proximity.
Flashlights which can blind them.
Bicycles and there monstrous road grating and balancing act dangers.
500 plus cake ship atmosphere deterioration feature. OOPS said that one already.
Updated Contact reports due to approval from councils high above them.
Pictures destroyed due to overexcited human reactions and possible black mail by earth humans of degenerate thinking capabilities.
Feel free to add a list of more my fellow contact report readers.

--Mark 23:33, 6 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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This exercise was to point out the imperfections of these so called "advanced ET's", not point fingers, although it has a certain logical value when seriously analyzed under the Cause and Effect principle for those without the necessary experience in endeavoring however compassionate resolutions they may be utilizing.

On more than a few occasions, had the Plejaren or others analyzed the particular situations and elicit inputs from the very ones affected, then the outcome would have a more positive impact. There are allot of events going on within this most complex environment, both material and fine matters that one day we and others will discover as logical and humane. That is why such a complex interconnected issues that spans time/space of various encounters require a composite consensus approach to include the inputs from these so called degenerates, since some are directly connected to former ET re-incarnated spirits.

Maybe it will be another ET race or BEING not the Plejaren, with of course, Earth human inputs that will finally bring about the reversal of degenerative measures that will bridge the enormous gap that now separates our common link(s)?

We are more interconnected than what meets the eye, but that full potential(s) have not been addressed and when one understands their valuable place holder in this equation, along with others on the "other side" of this equation, then one will "find" the appropriate measures to finally balance the "Equational Potentials" between the negative and positive factors since Nokodemjon brought order in the DERN universe.

The "key" is to acknowledge and act positively on your particular attributes in this most complex set of evolutionary circumstances regardless of ones current level of evolution. When all entities react positively, then the BEING will be unified between the material and fine energies that currently separate them.

--Hawaiian 06:22, 7 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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The Plejaren are not perfect, so they cannot know every single space dwelling race out there. They are developing like we are, thus we can't rely on them for everything, we should be so kind to say thanks for the assistance. They can in no way know every ET's intention out there. If we implemented better measures to counter rash decision making then things can get better by our own hand rather than us having to hope the Plejaren elicit thoughts into every leader to do the right thing.

--Mark 16:51, 7 June 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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Because the Plejaren are close friends with BEAM it is more than reasonable to think that the Plejaren show wisdom and knowledge which is simply excused by us Earth Human degenerates.(Wisdom x knowledge = Love).It is unreasonable to expect any human at any level of evolution to sacrifice themselves.
The best anybody can do is to be responsible for themselves first and to help others secondly.We should only compete with good deeds.These ideas evolve humans to be spiritual and thus independent from the urge to be dependent on others.The body is really a vessel or dwelling for the spirit and the conscience block. Food is the fuel and material that maintains the flesh and blood while the electromagnetic energies power the body and the conscience and the fluidal Energies and much more.We are today capable of reversing the gene that degenerates our lives it only requires masses of people to awake and see the truth in order for cause and effect to take place for the good.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 01:44, 8 June 2010 (BST)
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== Nebojsa said ... ==

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Greek Orthodox-Catholic Church? Such a church does not exist. The two are separate and opposed (since the 10th century AD).The Talmud has nothing in common with either of the above mentioned churches, it is Jewish. And Rashid is an Arabic/Islamic name. Such errors raise serious doubts about the authenticity of the text and compromise Mr. Meier.

--[[User:Nebojsa|Nebojsa]] 18:18, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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-nebojas I implore you to read much more and with specific regard the contact notes. Therein you will find answers that seemed like they were standing up and waving a giant flag as if to say "Right here!! right here!! These are the answers!"

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 21:47, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
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Talk:Being Oneself

2012-03-11T16:33:40Z

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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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Eduard...I discovered that this reasoning actually does work very effectively.I read the first few chapters of THE GOBLET OF TRUTH and used this knowledge at my workplace.A certain co-worker tried his best to erupt my degenerate feelings to backfiring into a rage,but I triumphed and he cooled down back to being reasonable.It appears that the conscience can catch on fire and the fire does burn up all reasoning.This knowledge brings tremendous joy to me.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 23:56, 7 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Same here Bigfoot, people at my workplace tend to find joy in bringing heartache to others in order to feel better about themselves especially those in higher positions,deja vu. :) I remember when I use to feel a fury in my belly every time but I know that won't solve any problems.

--Mark 03:40, 8 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Test

--Hawaiian 19:51, 11 June 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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The workplace is a prime example of what overpopulation of the genetic manipulated people degenerate at an ever more vicious rate that dooms us to what the creator/manipulators hope to be our mass extinction.I sometimes feel why not get it over with(World War 3) but reason prevails and the creational laws of fight back are stronger.Why not show those other visitor Et's Who's Who and not stoop to our lowest form.Show them that we too are part of Creation and welcome any help that they may offer us.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 08:36, 15 June 2010 (BST)
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Very good!!!

--[[User:Zoe marshall|Zoe marshall]] 07:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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== TROLL ERA said ... ==

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"Generally, attacks and problems of others must be ignored and warded off in a manner that they are the concern, the aggression and problems of antagonists and not of one's own person."

So why are you whining about "overpopulation" and various other issues, if it is only the concern of the overpopulating antagonists?

Why are you whining about "humans exhausting the Earth's resorces down to the last bushel" if you can make it not your concern?

Why are you whining about anything at all on this site if it isn't your concern?

Why are you whining about a "lack of wisdom" in humans, if it's only their concern?

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 19:57, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Newb slayer,

Why whine? It's because of selfish idiots like yourself who only thing about themselves and not about the environment of both internal and external which will be destroyed by the items you mention.

Your attitude is the same as those destructive jews of hyperboleans who conspired, spread lies and deceit amongs the Atlantians and Mu so that they ended up destroying their cities on Earth and almost destroyed the planet as well, not to mention a good majority of life both human and other spiecies died because of such insane madness of selfishness, greed, lust of power and plain stupidity.

People here (not counting you) are concerned about what those other 90 percent of humanity who are stuck on stupid engaging in self-destructive activites that not only threaten themselves, but also those who care...

So in cases like these, maybe it's best to ship off these degenerates to another desolute planet so they can destroy themselves and let Earth recover itself from this insane madness.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:31, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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== TROLL ERA said ... ==

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I didn't say that you shouldn't be whining. I asked why are you whining and then self contradicting yourself by telling others to shrug it off. Why are you claiming that absolutely anything can be shrugged off, and then whining about it for 1000s of articles? Why are you telling me that the poisonous oxygen depleted air I'm breathing, is only the “concern of antagonists”, and then proceeding to whine about it and lecture on “honesty” and “wisdom”, you self contradicting retard(s)? Why are you telling me that the poisonous oxygen depleted air I'm breathing, is only the “concern of antagonists”, and then proceeding to lecture on the interconnectedness of the universe and how 1 thing affects another at any distance, you self contradicting retard(s)?

In addition, why should non retards (not you) even have to be exposed to “antagonists” in the first place? Just to satisfy your insatiable dick hungriness? Or just because out of an infinite versions of reality possible, Creation decided it gets turned on by seeing ghetto scrubs like yourself in action VIA A VERSION OF REALITY BASED ON ABSOLUTE DEPENDANCE?

STFU animal. Don’t give lectures on selfishness to someone 10000000000X more righteous than yourself. You that would reproduce beside the degenerates you are whining about because your dick starved appetite and mini me bondage fetishes take priority over your child not breathing noxious air, don’t get to lecture on selfishness, you flagrant 2 faced weasel.

"GAIS!!! I'M SO CONCERNED WITH BLOOD SOPPING CLAWS MERCILESS DESTRUCTION COMING OUR WAY, I'VE DECIDED TO ADD 3 TARGETS TO THE MEATGRINDER TRAIN, HERP DERP, HERP DERP, NARFFF, I'm so wise(TM)". That’s your 2faced weasel 3 minis manufacturing prophet in action and that's you, unrighteous parasites that you are.

GREETINGS NEIGHBOURHOOD PSYCHOAPTH. Once you reproduce, once you stick that penis in the vagina, you are responsible for everything down to the last detail. If you reproduce beside "those other 90 percent of humanity who are stuck on stupid engaging in self-destructive activities that not only threaten themselves, but also those who care" WTF do you think that makes you?.... It makes you a "stuck on" dick sucking appetites 2faced weasel that can't deviate from your selfish appetites WHEN NECCESSARY. You are the selfish one, don’t try to put your weasel shylock spin on things. You that has the audacity to reproduce because your more advanced pet fetishes and insatiable dick starved appetites take priority over all else don’t get to give lectures on selfishness. ADDITIONALLY THE IDEA OF “SELF DESTRUCTIVE ACTIVITIES” IS A SICK JOKE to begin with, YOU FLAGRANT PSYCHOAPTH. I’VE ALREADY MENTIONED THE OBVIOUS, THAT CREATION/SOURCE CAN DO ANYTHING IT WANTS WITH ITS CONSTANTS/PARAMETERS AND THAT WHAT IS SELF DESTRUCTIVE IS SO BY DESIGN (OF THE CREATIONAL LAWS), NOT BY ABSOLUTENESS – NOT BECAUSE IT COULD BE NO OTHER WAY.

If you reproduce beside the “degenerates”, you become a “degenerate” psychopath yourself. Logic? Any questions?

AGAIN, SPARE ME THE HISTORY LESSON YOU PSYCHOTIC TRIVIAL WEASEL-BITCH GAME ADDICT. I already know the history & I'm not interested in your trivial human bitch games, for the last time. In all of that history you just described, YOU AND YOUR KIND, EGO TRIPPING ANIMALS THAT YOU ARE, reproduced besides these psychopaths you are whining about, hence becoming a psychopath yourself. AND, BECAUSE YOU KNOW AND KNEW YOU ARE IN CREATION'S GAME/HOUSE/MATERIAL, BECAUSE YOU KNOW AND KNEW THERE'S NO RUSH TO REPRODUCE SINCE YOU AREN'T IN THE FIRST VERION OF EXISTANCE BUT IN CREATION'S MATERIAL WHICH WILL TAKE CARE OF THINGS ANYWAYS, AND STILL REPRODUCED BESIDES THE “DEGENERATE” PSYCHOPATHS YOU ARE CONDEMING, YOU ARE 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 X WORSE THAN THE PSYCHOPATHS YOU ARE CONDEMING.

This is known as logic you mother fucking (literally) 2 faced weasel TROLL.

You don't seem to understand, that your kids aren’t obligated to eat the feces you weren't able to take care of yourself. You’re the one obligated to forego reproduction if feces is on the menu. If you weren't able to take care of all things, then you shouldn't have reproduced. ONCE YOU REPRODUCE, YOU ARE GUILTY FOR EVERYTHING THAT OCCURS AND HAS OCCURED EVER ON THE PLANET. And now you are being asked to justify your bullshit lies, which you cannot do, because you don't speak the language of logic, but rather the language of troll. YOU REPEAT YOUR TRIVIAL BITCH GAME HISTORY THAT YOU WERE WILLINGLY A PART OF BY REPRODUCING BESIDES THE DEGENERATES YOU ARE WHINING ABOUT, hence MAKING YOU 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000X THE DEGENERATE. In addition you have the gall to give lectures on selfishness, you that would reproduce no matter what situation you find yourself in, you sick sick sick sick fuck – you psychotic animal that only understands one language: the language of a throbbing hard cock pulsating in your throat.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOT, if you reproduce beside "degenerates", you are 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 X the "degenerate" yourself.

I suggest you go back to education, learn some more math/logic and come back with something other than flaunting your insatiable dick sucking appetite that you can’t let go of when necessary.

However don't take this post seriously, as its only a troll post to answer the troll quality of your post, you MAGNIFICENT SPLENDID MARVELOUS BEINGS OF LOGIC AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.

PS. I have a question for you marvellous beings of logic and righteousness. According to your prophet Meier, “only that which is true and remains true, can be valid as truth – something one can depend on and that never under any circumstances ever needs revision.” So the truth isn’t time variant. So my question to you is, if bondaging absolute dependency material life isn’t the truth in 1 trillion years from now, why would it be the truth now? If the present psychotic version of reality isn’t acceptable in 1 trillion years from now, why would it be acceptable now? When you spread your disease, of constant eating, shitting, urinating and having to deal with “antagonists”, culminating in aging, decaying and dying and repeating that cycle, to others, are you proud of yourself?

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 01:36, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Obviosly you still come here Troll Era because you find SOME validity or conflict with reason towards the work of Meier. If you didn't care at all you would move along and not waste your time here. I guess you have a lot of time to spare or are just a confrontational degenerate. :) Either way I hope you find some common sense.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:05, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
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If there are any doubts that there should be a world wide birth stop just look at Troll's post. I've never seen a better argument for birth control than that. You know the type, the ones that accuse everyone else of shitting but don't realize that they shit themselves. I mean who wants spoiled little brats who can't get their way to eventually govern the earth?

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 16:20, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
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CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, you haven’t realized the highest truth. You’ve only realized a part of it; YOU’VE ONLY GOTTEN TO THE BARE MINIMUM LEVEL WHERE YOU CAN BE CLASSIFIED AS NOT 100% INSANE, BUT YOU ARE STILL PARTIALLY INSANE. And in your arrogance and ignorance you are doing exactly what even more ignorant people have done to you: fail to acknowledge higher truth, fail to adapt to higher insights, FAIL TO NOT OFFEND WHAT IS CREATIVE.

By Meier’s own words: “As precisely as he will observe the human laws of the human society, he still will constantly offend against all laws and rules and order of what is creative in the universe.”

To rephrase that, “as precisely as he will observe human laws, he will constantly fail to adapt to newer insights – to higher emerging truth.”

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, the present version of reality centered on absolute dependency is finite for a reason. It isn’t the correct answer. CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, your appallingly low level of ecstasy possible to extract from this piece of shit human body and fecal spewing anus isn’t the correct answer. CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, LIMITS AND RESTRICTIONS ISN’T THE CORRECT ANSWER. CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, Creation designed the universe with heavy restrictions and absolute dependency to give you a brutal lesson on egoism.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, you don’t understand the mind of Creation. YOU DON’T. NEITHER DOES prophet Meier. You deserve credit only for being responsible and having attained the bare minimum level of righteousness but still not enough, nothing else. CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, Creation isn’t what you think it is. There’s a reason why Creation allows all sorts of atrocities to occur. There’s nothing “loving” about allowing an atomic bombs to drop on people or allowing a child to be raped and murdered, or allowing righteous people to be at the mercy of irresponsible noxious breeding vermin psychopaths blowing up their planets (refer to planet Malona / asteroid belt), unrighteous parasites that you are. There’s a reason why Creation puts you at the mercy of bloodthirsty predators that forcefully draft you into war.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS CREATION ISN’T WHAT YOU THINK IT IS. Love isn’t what you think it is. Love isn’t bondage under all circumstances, but rather profound righteousness: willing to adapt to higher logic – overcoming your selfish appetites if that’s what it takes. That’s love. Not you bonding your kids to appalling sub optimal conditions because you can’t overcome your dick sucking appetites.

ADDITIONALLY, LOVE ISN’T THE HIGHEST PRINCIPLE. LIMITLESSNESS IS THE HIGHEST PRINCIPLE (in which “love” is but a miniscule part of). CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, awaken from your ignorance, for when you finally get it, when you finally understand that this restrictive version of reality you forcefully spread to others was optional – and that this instant you could be eons closer to Creation’s power and ecstasy if you simply let go of your breeding fetishes, you will cry in agony when you realize your bondage crimes of chaining others to you – not because it’s wrong for you to engage in it, but because it’s wrong for you to force others if they want out, and hence if the ‘freedom from reincarnation’ option isn’t built into the cosmos, you have to stop breeding. Only then, will you learn a brutal, hurtful lesson on humbleness, UNRIGHTEOUS PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, the present version of reality centered around 1 person being dependent on another isn’t the only version possible. It was created like this to teach you parasites a brutal lesson about egoism.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, you don’t understand the mind of Creation. Meier isn’t all knowing, - MERELY AT THE BARE MINIUM LEVEL OF MASTERY-. Charging bondage robots, on top of the game being optional and a sick joke to give you a brutal lesson on egoism, if you fail to take care of the animals/”degenerates” then you have to let go from your end. If you fail to do this, then the “degenerates” take care of you just like what is occurring now. And Creation allows all of this to teach bondage clowns like yourself a brutal lesson on egoism.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, CREATION ISN’T WHAT YOU THINK IT IS. YOU HAVEN’T GRASPED IT ATROCIOUS LEVEL OF PSYCHEDELICK MASTERY YET.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, Creation isn’t what you think it is: refer to all Earth history.

At its level of mastery/godliness/power that you won’t even fathom to understand until you smoke some really good psychedelics, it got bored and ran out of challenges. So it embarked on the present version of reality, not only to give itself a challenge “let’s see what preposterous things I can achieve by other’s egoism”, but to demonstrate to yourselves what happens when you are a psychotic ego tripping unrighteous parasite, WILLING TO CONTINUE LIFE IN APALLING SUB OPTIMAL CONDITIONS (constants/parameters), and by your own words “failing to heed to what is creative” when it is spoon fed to you. CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, there’s nothing loving about Creation making you preoccupied with constant eating, shitting and decaying and dying. UNRIGHTEOUS CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS THAT ARE STUNTED IN YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS, CONSTANTLY BEING FORCED TO DECAY AND DIE, IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE MEANING OF “LOVE”. Unrighteous parasites that you are, “love” and “death” are not synonyms. CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, RIGHT NOW, THIS INSTANT, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WORK AND TAKE A SHITTING AND EATING BREAK followed by driving to your grocery store to load your cart with some carrots, YOU COULD BE IN 24/7 UNFATHOMABLE ECSTASY (BEYOND YOUR WILDEST IMAGINATION) IF YOU’D SIMPLY LET GO OF YOUR PSYCHOTIC REPRODUCTION FETISHES, AND ASK CREATION FOR ITS POWER AND ECSTASY RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, you are failing to heed to what is creative. You are doing what the even worse degenerates have done to you.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, Creation hasn’t given any instructions, and allows anything to challenge itself in creating a version of reality to see just how much truth its creations can unlock, just out of sheer boredom it did this. Your truth isn’t complete, merely at the bare minimum level to escape being classified as an “ultra degenerate” but you are still “semi degenerates”.

Charging bondage robots, when you finally get the game, you will cry in agony at your bondage crimes: that you refused to adapt to higher truth – to stop offending against what is creative: FREEDOM FROM REINCARNATION MUST BE GIVEN TO THOSE THAT DESIRE IT, and hence if this option is not built into the present version of reality, you must all halt reproduction on all planets (which is exactly what Creation wants from you, to signify a mastery of your ego): “Simply stated, the real meaning of life in the material state is, in fact, the mastery over one's ego, which constantly wants to dominate, and the subsequent evolution in the wholeness of the consciousness and the spirit.” Charging bondage robots, Creation’s power and ecstasy can be yours now, if you but merely conquer your ego.

YOU AND MEIER DONT GET IT FULLY YET. You’ve merely drawn the correct observations. But you haven’t drawn the correct conclusions. CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, you don’t get the game yet because your egoism (OF THINKING YOUR APPETITES arbitrarily designed on purpose by Creation MEAN SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT AND MUST BE HEEDED) prevents you from going further in logic, taking that next logical deduction and penetrating all the way to the root. You haven’t penetrated with your understanding to the root of truth.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, Creation isn’t what you think it is and this is clearly evidenced by merely observing what it allows, by the arbitrary limits it created and by what you are engaging in being finite. Charging bondage robots, Creation is merely interested in challenging itself out of boredom and would love nothing more than to see 1 of its universes fail to complete for the 1st time ever at which point it would allow freedom from reincarnation to those that consciously ask for it in its subsequent created universes. Don’t you want to be part of this historical event, for the sake of Creation’s creations that haven’t been created yet. PSYCHOTIC CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, NOT EVERYONE CRAVES ABSOLUTE DEPENDENCY BONDAGE.

Unfortunately for you, a life of parasitism, slavery, work, toil and servitude, eating and shitting, decaying and dying, limits and absolute dependency was closer and more fulfilling to you than reaching out to divinity (the true point of life) and demanding Creation’s power NOW (NOT IN 2 MINUTES FROM NOW).

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“Since ancient times you on Earth have wanted only one thing: to reproduce and indulge in bondage, bondage under all circumstances. Upon gaining these more advanced pets, you have simply used the mini mes for enslavement and bondage. Because of your extremely poor, confused, cult-religious philosophy of life and/or truthful view of life for those few that got it and insatiable dick sucking appetites, you believed that by accepting and/or rejecting the true Creative laws and commandments and/or by creating orders based on human laws (in turn based on Creation’s physical laws) and/or in general simply reproducing period, you could lead mankind in accordance with these garbage absolute dependency laws to a satisfactory future of improved living potential. Having rejected the knowledge of (even more than) Creation’s level of mastery and ecstasy as the point of and only satisfaction of life for man, you wanted to force other human beings into living using materialistic means and artificially imposed (and hence false) ABSOLUTE DEPENDENCY. Due to your lack of courage to face the truth, and your distorted life-style of degenerate hypocrisy, a life of absolute dependency was closer and more fulfilling to you THAN DEMANDING CREATION’S POWER AND ECSTASY, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW – NOT EVEN 2 SECONDS LATER SHOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WAIT.

Many attempts have been made to bring truth and wisdom to the Earthling, to offer him a life of UNFATHOMABLE BLISS and to guide him toward the path of bypassing Creation, its laws, and commandments OF PSYCHOTIC ABSOLUTE DEPENDENCY. However, all attempts have thus far been in vain. Without exception, the ships of truth have sunk, becoming immersed in the terrestrial being's insatiable dick sucking, more advanced pet manufacturing AND ABSOLUTE DEPENDENCY fetishes.”
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Unrighteous parasites that you are, YOU ARE FAILING TO HEED TO WHAT IS CREATIVE. But you are in luck for you will be given lessons on the topic of bondage firstly by Creation itself http://feww.wordpress.com/ and secondly by your fellow psychotic, murderous humans ... CREATION ISN’T WHAT YOU THINK IT IS, you ignorant, unrighteous parasites, nor is divinity and utter mastery what you think it is. Go smoke some psychedelics and you might get a glimpse into this.

BUT OF COURSE SINCE 99.9999% OF HUMANS HAVE CREATED A TROLL ERA SINCE HUMANITY BEGAN, UP IS THE NEW DOWN, LEFT THE NEW RIGHT, illogic the new logic, AND DEATH THE NEW LOVE. You are all sick in the mind and unbelievably unreasonable, the simplest logic you cannot grasp.

Like bizarre weasel cockroaches you roam the planet pillaging everything in your path. You then choose an inverse genital target to have an inverse relationship and to force another into cocksucking expeditions. Through successive lifetimes you swap genital roles and have at it again. Like bizarre weasel cockroaches it required inverse genitals to lure you into decreasing your psychopathness. NOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT ONE LIFETIME YOU PARASITED XY, THE NEXT IT WAS YOUR CHILD AND YOU SHOWERED IT WITH EFFORT/WORK/TIME, THE NEXT YOU CUT ITS THROAT, THE NEXT YOU DEEPTHROATED IT'S COCK FOR 5 HOURS STRAIGHT, I WANT ALL OF YOU TO ENJOY TAKING EACH OTHER SERIOUSLY KNOWING THAT GENITALS WERE THE PIVITAL DIFFERENCE, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. THAT'S THE MASTERY OF OUR CREATOR.

For you males out there, how does it feel to know you let vagina bond you to murderers, parasites, predators, and ABSOLUTE DEPENDENCY Creational natural laws that arbitrarily kill people (ex. lightning strikes, quakes, storms). How does it feel to know you let vagina bond you to standing armies. How does it feel to know that you let vagina castrate you and turn you into dignityless freakshows. AND HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW YOU TOOK TURNS BEING THE VAGINA THAT DID IT YOURSELF, enslaving others and therefore yourselves in the process, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. That’s the mastery of our creator.

CHARGING BONDAGE ROBOTS, it’s not your kid’s obligation to accept being bonded to “degenerates”. If you chose to be a psychopath and bond others to degenerates, then the ultra powerful go ultra degenerate on you, you UNRIGHTEOUS PSYCHOPATHS THAT YOU ARE. You must not mind being prey, otherwise you wouldn’t continue. CONTINUE?

PS. BAM, WILD SNORLAX APPEARS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt7dK62QdLM&feature=related

PPS. BAM, ANTITHESIS WILD SNORLAX APPEARS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-tTO8PpoQ

PPPS. “That which is creative alone is endless wisdom and truth with which there is not an iota of error”. “What is creative is full of endless peace, endless cognition and the most perfect perfection”. “Be yourself”. Why don’t you trolls admit that what you really meant by ‘endless creativity’ and being yourself is only in your absolute dependency genital sucking domain. At least don’t be a 2 faced bitch about it. I find your lack of logic disturbing.

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PPPPPPPS. If you psychopaths had a gram of righteousness in you, you would all halt reproduction on all planets to demand Creation’s power and ecstasy for yourself right here right now; to demand Creation change its primitive laws to be the most awesome and fun possible – laws like those that want freedom from reincarnation must be granted freedom from reincarnation; it’s only fair. Of course, I wouldn’t expect unrighteous enslaving parasitical dick starved bondage robots like yourselves to understand this.

Now if Master Meier who had a taste of Arahat Athersata divinity (ecstatic feeling wise) couldn’t resist flossing his vas deferens to bring his MINIME manufacturing tally to 3; if you that are wiser than the irresponsible degenerate noxious breeding vermin still feel like reproducing in a 14X overpopulated toxic wasteland, still feel like exposing your kids to “degenerates” just because you can’t make external friends and need a pocket forced friend, WHAT HOPE IS THERE THAT YOU WILL CONVINCE “PUSSY SCORING SPECIAL TACTICS” JAMAL, TYRONE AND LEBRON, “40 VIRGINS IS MY HIGHEST ASPIRATION” SEX CRAZED FIENDS MOHAMED AND FATIMAH, 847190806 PEOPLE/SQ-KM NOXIOUS BREEDING VERMIN SANJEEL AND PRIYA SHIVA-KRISHNA, 847190806 PEOPLE/SQ-KM NOXIOUS BREEDING VERMIN XING LING MING AND XANG TANG LANG, AND CHARGING NOXIOUS BREEDING VERMIN JETHRO, JEB, KELSO, KLETUS, BOB, TIM, AND DARLENE, to tone down the breeding.

NONE. You can be certain pussy scoring special tactics Jamal will not be denied his vaginal cavity and the overpopulation will continue to escalate. It’s hilarious that prophet Meier couldn’t heed his own advice after tasting Arahat Athersata divinity, whereas even if you gave me a country’s surface area full of gold bars, you couldn’t convince me to breed. STFU psychotic newbs.

You see unrighteous ignorant (ignorance is bliss) enslaving parasite bondage clowns, I’m not here to reason with you, but merely to see the surreal spectacle Creation’s programming in action through you, to see the spectacle of Creation’s masterful ability to manifest freakshow circuses of appetite and ignorance. You aren’t sovereign entities that can be reasoned with – that can adapt to new insights, THAT CAN HEED WHAT IS CREATIVE, but merely an extension of Creation’s will and because of this, you have no standards just like Creation who can comfortably sit back and enjoy the outrageous freakshow of putting the righteous, responsible and non breeders to live beside the unrighteous, irresponsible noxious breeding vermin (enslaving piece of shit entity that it is, and enslaving unrighteous parasites that you are). So by all means, be my guest and enjoying pleading with Jamal’s handgun and Jamal’s, Sanjeel’s, Xing Ling Ming’s, and Kletus’ vas deferens. Enjoy pleading with the unreasonable to be reasonable, fun stuff. STFU all of you psychopaths. You understand nothing, and you most certainly don’t understand what morals and what real “love” is. IT’S NOT YOUR KIDS OBLIGATION TO EAT YOUR FECES YOU DIDN’T TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. IT’S YOUR OBLIGATION TO FOREGO REPRODUCTION IF FECES IS ON THE MENU, AND IT IS.

If you turn your back on the truth, then you remain nothing more than a puppet. Now, “be yourself”, show me your genitals, dance puppets, dance, MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, etc.

Uncalled for? Too cruel? NOT AS CRUEL AS BONDAGING RIGHTEOUS NON BREEDING NON BONDAGE FETISHERS TO YOUR ERRORS LIKE BLOWING UP MALONA and a 14x overpopulated toxic wasteland. And most definitely not as cruel as bonding others against their will to your idiot psychotic restrictions: EATING, SHITTING, BREATHING, URINATING, DECAYING, DYING, FUN STUFF, you sick sick sick unrighteous parasites that only understand one language: the language of genital friction.

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 06:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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== t said ... ==

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--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 06:58, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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== TROLL ERA said ... ==

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Shiela you maggot bitch. You spoiled dick starved prostitute. You'd know a lot about getting your way. You've definately been governing the Earth properly.

Because Shiela, we all know, that getting your way of fecal explosions, urine and decay is so much better than getting the way of Creation's power and ecstasy.

STFU YOU FLAGRANT PSYCHOPATH. What do you know except to suck dick? If you want I can mail you some of my dick cheese you can mail me a picture of your vagina with some vagina residue and we can bond in an email conversation about your daughters dance recital.

LULZ. Now get to work you fucking animal, you cock sucking pig.

PS. For you males out there, when you look at a vaginal avatar and know that it accepts all the atrocities and idiocy on the planet, why are you attracted to it? Are you that pathetic and desperate?

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 07:04, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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== TROLL ERA said ... ==

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FOR YOU MALES OUT THERE,

why don't you faggots put on some lipstick, maybe do your nails a little, and go out on the town for a night of dick hunting?

It is after all your secret ultimate fetish (that you want to force on others on top of that). Why wait until you enter a vaginal avatar, just do it now faggots.

PS. when your smelly feces plops into the toilet, can you feel the dignity anchored there in?

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 07:10, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Newb did I not already tell you to go away? no one cares about your insane ramblings. your not impressing anyone. it just sounds like you need your meds and cant find them. you really sound like you're actually crazy. CRAZY. go back to spacedicks on reddit and go play with your cat, or cats which from the sound of it, you probably have several. newb indeed.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 16:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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Talk:How did our universe and our world come into existence?

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== ory said ... ==

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How many absolute absolutums are in existence .

and absolute perfection does not exist anywere , do you agree .

--ory 05:57, 29 March 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Just my opinion, from what I can gather, the Absolute Absolution is the highest "state of BEING" reached after Creation has evolved or "obtained" the 10 to the 49th power of evolution, in which more Creation(s) are created and "adds" to the endless/timeless of a never ending "expansion" of the Absolute Absolution which "exists" in the non-space realm.

Absolute Perfection can never be "obtained", it is always evolving, and if it did reach that "stage", then evolution will cease to evolve...it is a never ending process that continues forever.

"It" or better described as

--Hawaiian 07:28, 29 March 2010 (BST)
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== Suv said ... ==

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Even Creation is evolving. So absolute pefection does not exists.

Even the Absolute Absolutum evolves into Ur-Absolutum, Central Absolutum, Creations Absolutum, Super Absolutum, Sohar Absolutum, BEING Absolutum and possibly many more higher Absolutum forms.

--[[User:Suv|Suv]] 17:13, 29 March 2010 (BST)
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== Stuart said ... ==

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Hi, I do not have a religious axe to grind, but I find the comment about being no Creator God.
If these happening are the result of 'Spiritual-Physical' processes, how can a 'Creator' not be involved. Also, this 'birthing' process was set up to behave in a particular manner. Where did it's programming come from?

Regards

--Stuart 09:45, 27 August 2010 (BST)
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== Noahochoa said ... ==

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can you explain the 7 universal belts to me?

--[[User:Noahochoa|Noahochoa]] 07:47, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Noahochoa said ... ==

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can you explain the 7 universal belts to me?

--[[User:Noahochoa|Noahochoa]] 07:49, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Stuart, something did in a sense give birth to the Creation, but the Creation itself created the visible universe from its own idea. In a similar sense, someone did give birth to you, but you are still creating your life.

Noahochoa, FIGU Bulletin #5 has a good explanation or just do a search on "belts" to see what the Plejaren say themselves.

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 17:17, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Usedname said ... ==

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Glory be to the Creation. :) Extremely difficult and seemingly impossible is the distribution of the truth about the almighty Creation,its laws and recommendations. Seems like my existence on Earth is amongst degenerate primates who swing on the vines of trees in a jungle of impenetrable ignorance, arrogance,and megalomania. :(

--[[User:Usedname|Usedname]] 11:31, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Actually it would be futile in attempting to conceptualize where or when Creation starts or ends because “its” idea is a result of countless accumulations of knowledge and experiences from various foundations of evolution to include the material as well as the non-material realms of existence.

The very nature of Creation is the evolutionary process of being into BEING and BEING into being and so forth, the merging from the physical to the half physical/spiritual to the Arahat Athersata to the Petale and so forth. Thus Creation can never be “contained” in any shape, form or thoughts for doing so (if possible?) would violate its free will of evolutionary nature.

It is like saying “I will think for you, therefore I am you”! You are not longer unique but just another clone that has just stopped evolving.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 18:48, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Radacci said ... ==

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is there an inconsistency here?
it states at the first line that big bang comes from ur-universe.
but it says creation universe is the lowest evolution state, and next comes ur-universe?
if we're an creation universe, how can creation universe exist before ur-universe, which gives it birth?

--[[User:Radacci|Radacci]] 20:03, 16 July 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Our universe has a twin I wonder if it had octuplets and that occured because of the big bang X2 and the Earth came to be through billions of years of collsions in which our planet came to be. It's amazing how quickly we can destroy a planet knowing how long it takes to create one. Weird.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 07:32, 17 July 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Excellent summary and I would like to add a little "salt" to the bitter truth that NO god or gods or for that matter any religious dogma has a MONOPOLY on Creation! For Creation, because it is Relatively perfect and constantly evolving forever "it" needs more knowledge and experiences to continue merging into more creative endeavors.

Thus, every single human and other intelligences knowledge/experiences will also in due course merge into the Absolute Absolutum to again create more wonderful things. To claim that these god or gods have absolute control of Creation is a travesty of justice against humanity for this concept only validates the barbaric nature of some parasitic entity existing at the expense others.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 01:02, 31 August 2011 (BST)
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== Newb slayer said ... ==

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"Relatively perfect and constantly evolving forever "it" needs more knowledge and experiences to continue merging into more creative endeavors. "

It needs more knowledge and experiences at my behalf though - at my expense. How convenient. Congratulations, enslaving parasites for your amazing insights.

It needs more knowledge you say? ROFL. Theres empty space. Then thers stuff you can build and shape any way you want on top of the empty space. What more knowledge is there to know? Needs more knowlege you say? What knowledge can it really get when it created / molded the constants/parameters to behave in whatever way it wants. You ass kissers don't understand anything.

Easy for our Creator to play its f@ggot game since it had the chance of being created first before anyone else, it could have easily been the other way around, except I wouldn't even think to create eating, shitting, breathing, animal bloodsports, being at the mercy of random psychopath's weapons, forcing all to suck cock / eat vagina against their own will, etc, etc, etc.

You parasite criminals think you understand? You understand nothing. You are nothing but puppets. Retard bondage clowns, understand simple logic, Creation can do anything it wants with its stuff/constants/parameters. So why do retarded/annoying sh!t on purpose?

And all of you, you went along with this. If you humans on all planets had a gram of righteousness in you, you would stop reproducing to force Creation to change it's laws to be more fun. Laws like for example, those that want to be granted freedom from reincarnation must be granted it. It's only fair.

Of course I wouldn't expect unrighteous enslaving parasite c0ck starved bondage clowns like yourselves to understand this.

Like bizzare weasel cockroaches you roam the planet pillaging everything in your path. You then choose an inverse genital target to have an inverse relationship and to force another into cocksucking expeditions. Through succesive lifetimes you swap genital roles and have at it again. Like bizzare weasel cockroaches it required inverse genitals to lure you into decreasing your psychopathness. NOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT ONE LIFETIME YOU PARASITED XY, THE NEXT IT WAS YOUR CHILD AND YOU SHOWERED IT WITH EFFORT/WORK/TIME, THE NEXT YOU CUT ITS THROAT, THE NEXT YOU DEEPTHROATED IT'S COCK FOR 5 HOURS STRAIGHT, I WANT ALL OF YOU TO ENJOY TAKING EACH OTHER SERIOUSLY KNOWING THAT GENITALS WERE THE PIVITAL DIFFERENCE, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. THAT'S THE MASTERY OF OUR CREATOR.

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 01:08, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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That was awesome. Completely unhindered by the need to know anything about this case yet, totally focused on hating it also. Amazing, Eloquent, Ignorant, Masterful....Me Gusta.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 01:27, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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== RemR said ... ==

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Yeah, wow... "Newb slayer" - That was such a nonsensical, illogical, crude, primitive, defamatory and puffy-chested post that I don't think it even warrants any more than this remark in response.

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 01:45, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Someone wants attention, I don't know who but I think they might be onto something. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 02:58, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Newb slayer,

I would highly recommend your credentials to be a judge for the Giza Intelligences on that prison planet millions of light years away! It's just too bad they all died in 1996. Maybe we can find you some employment for other degenerates in the DERN universe who are in need of such "Enlightenment".

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 03:06, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Newb slayer said ... ==

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"Completely unhindered by the need to know anything about this case "

I know this case perfectly well. I do not debate that master Meier is the real deal prophet of the new time, nor do I debate the math/physics of the case or anything and everything in general.

I'm simply stating that Creation's laws are injust.

THOSE THAT WANT FREEDOM FROM REINCARNATION MUST BE GRANTED IT. It's only fair. Anythign less is enslaving bondage.

You see, bondage clowns, "love" is a 2 way street. It's not "love" any more if it's forced. Then it's bondage. If I was Creation, I would allow freedom from reincarnation to those that wanted. The masters/elite get to escape on to better things, and you that enjoy building weapons and rectal residue can have your fun, everyone wins.

"Ignorant". ROFL. Look at yourself in the mirror to see who willfully IGNORES all angles on the table. You are nothing but puppets/sheep/cattle blindly following what you have been told without scrutinizing deeply in your own interior everything.

Don't get me wrong, what you've been told is the truth, Meier is the real deal, I know this fully well, the point is: THOSE THAT WANT FREEDOM FROM REINCARNATION MUST BE GRANTED IT. Is this so wrong?

Anything less is enslaving bondage, and it's this principle why you are being torn apart and brought back down to reality, not what you want to cram down other people's throats: that's not "love"; "love" must be reciprical. Those that want it, full power to you, those that don't, must be granted freedom from reincarnation; everyone wins; everyone is happy. SOMETIMES, THE PRINCIPLE MATTERS. SOMETIMES THE PRINCIPLE IS EVERYTHING.

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 04:02, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Newb, you say those that want freedom from reincarnation must be granted it? Since you don't remember who you were in your last lifetime, how the heck is this going to make any difference? So you think it's better if you don't reincarnate? What would be the purpose in that? To stagnate and never evolve? Each subsequent life should have a chance to make themselves better because currently humans need a lot of work. You've said so yourself. What you're missing is that all people have free will. THEY choose to do all those things you speak about. Personally I blame religion for most of that and people's weak mindedness to do the easy thing (or to go along with the crowd) instead of what is considered hard work.
I think you're stuck on some concept that is meaningless in the whole scheme of things. Love ya!

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 18:36, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Thank ypu Sheila. You beat me to it! Salome!

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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Newb does have some valid points on the discrepancies between the “masters/elite” known as parasites to include the gods, their cohorts the sons/daughters of heaven, creator overlords, Giza and other ET’s that still harbor thoughts of world and universe domination at the expense of others.

We are all victims of these injustices, including Billy Meier, whose incarnated spirit of Nokodemjon is also bearing the same experiences we all are going through in spite of the fact that he co-created both the Plejarens, their ancestors including the creator overlords (responsible for the ageing manipulation and the reason why we don’t live past 100 years) Even Billy Meier’s spirit is subjected to the reincarnation process even though Nokodemjon was a pure spiritual form of the Arahat Athersata level, it to is going through this painful period to last millions of years or more even just to reach the half spiritual level again.

To say this is unfair, I would certainly agree for there are options to resolve this, but those in power to do so still have not “found” the logical humane cosmic laws to reference its appropriate applications nor the will to do so. The capacity to render this solution lies in both inside and outside of Earthly domains, it is the merging of both worlds that the final solutions will be forthcoming.

It is also true that creational laws as currently known to exist will not work to resolve the gross travesty inflicted on both the spiritual and material planes currently experienced on Earth. These laws need to evolve at the same intensity that produced such degenerated conditions because of the Cause and Effect which was and continue to be negated by its opposite, the Not-Cause and Not-Effect, because the forces that could have prevented such events from occurring did not react in DUE time, it was and continue to be “after the fact” as displayed in the intervention from higher intelligences during the Bardan episode when they destroyed several worlds in their homelands a little over 1000 years ago.

Does it have to take this sort of crisis in order for creation to “readjust” its equilibrium, or do we wait 800 years as the Plejarens have predicted before they believe its time Earthly matters are to be taken seriously?

When Billy says “we are all connected” is so very true and I am confident to mention that we are linked through the spirit’s various connections from the material to non-material spectrum that spans time/space and dimensions up to the spiritual level where Nokodemjon came from and even beyond. It is when one finds these connections that he/she has which also links to others as well and when his/her spirit begins to resonate from logical reasoning’s between the material conscious and subconscious, that these links also begin to resonate along its appropriate paths that will produce the harmonic impulses for the most appropriate equilibrium resolutions. This resolution is administered through the “Equational Potential Formulations”, a complex form of balanced forces that includes every single incident, event, space, time, dimensions, actions/reactions, Cause & Effect, Not-Cause & Not-Effect, both the positive and negative factors or parameters and other things, nothing is excluded. Its concept is not listed in Billy’s materials and I only discovered this rather recently, its application cannot be applied using Earthly technology, but requires much higher frequency processing because fine matter energy is also included which plays a very important function

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:19, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Due to fluctuating thought process Newb Slayer I suggest being incarnated as often and fast as possible as some members suggested to find a more stable Peaceful Slayer. The change in fluctuating TONE can ONLY be improved THROUGH multiple LIFETIMES. ;) Hang in there my fellow human people. I thought of that very same scenario as well to tell you the truth due to the unnatural process of incarnation in this territory but a little more organization let's say 75% more and everyone can develop accordingly if everyone wasn't crammed into one planet in the region and there was a clear goal for every human on the planet that doesn't have to do with material or power growth. Time will tell if the process becomes natural.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:54, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Newb slayer said ... ==

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Silly newbs, all your robot newb antics were already answered 10fold in the first post. You lack reading comprehension. So you puppet cattle sheep newbs want to be slain mercilessly do you? Let’s begin.

To the newb clowns known as Sheila and Zameen:
“you don't remember who you were in your last lifetime, how the heck is this going to make any difference?”
Are you mentally retarded? It’s not about that; this was quiet clear from the get go. It’s about not liking living in a weakling shitty, snot filled, need to breathe just to stay alive disgustingly ugly human body, easily harmed and injured. It’s about a rejection of the present version of reality (which can be constructed an infinite number of other ways). Ignorant bondage robot, can you understand, that the present version of reality can be constructed an infinite number of other ways by Creation? Can you grasp this simple concept already mentioned in the first post? Can you understand that if Creation wanted to, it could make you not have to eat, not have to shit, not have to work to produce goods, not have any pain sensors, unlocking flight 900000000X easier, not be dependent on you and your kind’s noxious breeding bondage fetishes, to biological weapons, ray weapons, nuclear weapons, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, you C0CKRAOCH CHARGING BONDAGE NEWBS? Can you understand this simple concept, c0ck starved charging bondage robots? Just look at the sh!t that’s coming out of your mouth. I mean, it doesn’t even look like you’re trying to have a serious debate.

“What would be the purpose in that? To stagnate and never evolve? Each subsequent life should have a chance to make themselves better because currently humans need a lot of work.”
Wow just wow. See the previous paragraph again. Again you come with random garbage. Do you speak the language of logic you maggot bondage robot? Second of all you maggot b!tch, what’s it to you what motives someone has for that; that’s their own business. No one is stopping you from continuing your weapon building, noxious breeding vermin, mini me fetished, cock sucking expeditions with your fellow bondage robots if it turns you on. Those that want an exit must be given an exit. Can you understand this simple concept? Third of all, you stupid animal, - YOU - need a lot of work. You think just because you are fallible, everyone else is as well? You think everyone is at your special needs level? Don’t project your failings/shortcomings onto others. (AND NO YOU STUPID ANIMAL, YOU DON’T GET TO POINT AT ME AS BEING FALLIBLE BECAUSE I’M NOT SUGAR COATING MY WORDS WHILE YOU GET TO BOND OTHERS TO A 14X OVERPOPULATED TOXIC WASTELAND SURROUNDED BY WEAPONS IN A WEAKLING CRAP AND SNOT FILLED BODY)

“What you're missing is that all people have free will. THEY choose to do all those things you speak about.”
You robot charging b!tch. We’re not even talking about the same thing. Not everything is about you, you charging animal. Yes you have free will to bondage others to a 14x overpopulated toxic wasteland surrounded by weapons, to psychopath predators. I also have free will to knee kick you in the face right after I throw fireballs at you, which is coming you psychopath bondage animal. What exactly is your point you charging robot? Again, it doesn’t even look like you are trying to have a serious debate.

Sheila, I think you are stuck on some rectal residue, mini me fetished, weapon building, NOXIOUS BREEDING VERMIN concept that is meaningless in the whole scheme of the-infinite-number-of-other-versions-of-reality- that-could-exist things. This is not the only version of reality possible you rabbid animal. Can you understand this simple concept? You stupid charging animal, all of this was already answered in the first post. How stupid do you feel? By the way what are the chances that you are ugly and physically weak / unfit, and unappealing. Pyrokinesis ya. LULZ.

To the charging bondage robot newb known as Hawaiian:
“Newb does have some valid points on the discrepancies between the “masters/elite” known as parasites.... thoughts of world and universe domination at the expense of others.“
ROFL. YOU RABBID CHARGING ANIMAL. I don’t want universe domination; I want to be space fish, without your idiot restrictions that you have the audacity to force on everyone, just chilling out peacefully not in bondage to PSYCHOPATH ANIMALS LIKE YOURSELF AND LIVING IN A RESTRICTIVE HUMAN BODY. Can you read simple English? This was already answered in the first post. Can you understand simple logic you rabbid charging animal? Me a “parasite”? ROFL, I mean really now, this is the best you can come up with. I want a peaceful exit from reincarnation, MEANWHILE YOU AND YOUR KIND WANT TO FORCEFULLY BOND OTHERS TO A 14X OVERPOPULATED TOXIC WASTELAND SURROUNDED BY WEAPONS , TO YOUR DIGUSTING AND WEAK HUMAN BODY, TO PREDATORS, TO JAMAL’S HANDGUN, JUST SO YOU CAN INDULGE IN YOUR BIZZARE MINI ME / POCKET FORCED FRIEND / MORE ADVANCED PET FETISHES, and I’m the parasite? ROFL. Silly newb, it doesn’t even look like you are trying to have a serious discussion: THOSE THAT WANT FREEDOM FROM REINCARNATION MUST BE GRANTED IT.
As for the history lesson. I already know the history. I’m interested in having an abstract debate, not your trivial human b!tch games. In fact you just ridiculed yourself. In all of that horrible history you just described, you (and your kind) ego tripping bondage robots went along with it. GOOD WORK CHARGING BONDAGE GHETTO NEWBS. You psychopath bondage robot(s) have to ask yourself 1 question. Who’s the bigger psychopath? The psychopaths themselves? OR YOU WHO REPRODUCES BESIDE PSYCHOPATHS? ROFL. Weakling animal, the point of life is to achieve Creation’s level of power/mastery/godliness. The present version of reality's constants/parameters was constructed with heavy limitations to teach bondage clowns like yourself a brutal lesson. ROFL. An essential lesson of Creation's game (straight from master Meier’s mouth) is, “the mastery of one’s ego”. When you are surrounded by criminally overpopulating noxious breeding vermin and weapon builders, you don’t reproduce. In doing so, your spirit is effectively teleported in time (you wait , till the primitive animals on the planet have reached a compatible level of evolution for it to be reinserted), or in space (if the primitive noxious breeding weapon building animals eradicate themselves, your spirit moves to another planet). By you having bondage fetishes and going on an EGO tripping bondage rampage you only own yourself. Congratulations psycho newb. That's the mastery of our Creator you charging ego tripping animal. That’s kind version of it. Now for your newb slaying version: if all humans on all planets reject Creation’s primitive laws, it will have no choice but to alter them: to allow freedom from reincarnation should one desire it, and to remove all of the unnecessary restrictions.
The rest of your post was just random gibberish. Charging bondage animal, everything was already answered in the first post: It doesn’t matter if you accurately described the present version of reality, because an infinite number of other versions could exist, yet you ANIMAL BONDAGE ROBOTS INSIST ON PRAISING THE LOWEST OF THE LOW. Everything was already answered in the first post: there’s empty space; then there’s stuff Creation can build and shape an infinite number of ways on top of (in) the empty space; then there’s your choice whether to accept it or not (via reproduction). Charging bondage robot, again this was already answered in the first post. Charging bondage robot, FREEDOM FROM REINCARNATION MUST BE GRANTED TO THOSE THAT DESIRE IT. Not everyone craves the bondage like you do. Who could have known?

To cockroach newb known as MARKVD:
Your random gibberish was already answered. An enslaving parasite till the very end are you? (those that want freedom from reincarnation must be granted it). Well you animal, what you fail to understand is that through your own bondage ego, you are open to manipulation and erradication. I suggest you get over your fetish with forcing your bondage on to others. Is that the only language you understand? So what you want is to force everyone into ass kissery with no option of a PEACEFUL exit to those that want it? And you find this reasonable? An enslaving parasite until the very end are you?

PS. Genitals.

PPS. mini me fetishes, MORE ADVANCED PETS, pocket forced friends. flagrant prostitution. RECTAL RESIDUE. CUM SHOTZ. DIRTY SANCHEZ. GOLD SHOWERS. machine guns, atomic bombs, poisonous oxygen depleted air, nutrient depleted food, politics, paper pushing, projectile semen, deep throating, biological weapons causing gruesome slow deaths, mana depleted earth, noxious breeding reproduction, Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj, genital logic, bondage, RICHARD GERE PRESENTS GIRBLING.

PPPS. What are the chances that all of you are ugly and physically unappealing. Tremble in fear hypocrite/irresponsible charging ghetto newb bondage clown robot life form psychopaths. The elite (the true elite, not comparable to the 2nd place material elite) are back. We show up every few 10 thousand years to give you a more personal taste of the bondage you crave, enslaving parasites that you are. Are you ready for your next massacre? Enjoy the anticipation.

http://feww.wordpress.com/2011-disaster-calendar/

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/4/49/ZannahDoEcropped.jpg
http://ssj1011.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/broly.jpg

What are the chances all of you are ugly animals with bodies that look like living corpses?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-tTO8PpoQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYYt3T3SxV4

Who the fvck do you think you are that you get to forcefully bond others to you without the option of a peaceful exit: freedom from reincarnation must be granted to those that want it. On your knees. I want you to beg for forgiveness, not suck c0ck like you were hoping, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. The true elite are back. We show up every few 10thousand years to give you a more personal taste of the bondage you crave, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE.

Meier’s words: “The world will reverberate from a powerful and merciless war cry, and cities will be destroyed, and the blood of human beings will flow in streams.
Hatred and vindictiveness will flood the earth, and human beings will live with the delusional belief of a doubtful peace, which they hope in vain to attain, for a worldwide war will inundate the earth, and nobody will be spared; not the old, not the women and children, not the sick and the injured, and not the just and the peaceful.”

and why should the women be spared, they are equally evil psychopaths, they are males in vaginal avatars after all, c0ckhungry charging bondage robots.

Some ask for a peaceful exit from reincarnation and you dare come to the discussion with your regujitated bondage fetishes. Are you ready to have fireballs thrown at you? Since you refuse to understand verbal logic (you must all either convince Creation to grant freedom from reincarnation to those that want it, or you must all halt reproduction on all planets to demand Creation to change its bondage laws to grant freedom from reincarnation to those that want it), perhaps you'll understand magic used against you logic, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. Enjoy being born in 20/40/80 years after your death and being enslaved (via reproduction) just like what you like to do, while some get to skim though your bondage in thousands of years. Enjoy the apocalypse bondage animals; it doesn't come often, and it will be giving out enriched extended lessons on the topic of bondage, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE.

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 20:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Nice to meet you to, I do not know why you exist right now if you are so happy. You know what you can do to rest in peace. :) I do wish you well on your journey of endless growth and development.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:19, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Newb "the psycho" slayer,

Have you forgotten to take your medicine, maybe double your dose of Prozac? You talk so tough while behind a keyboard so I suggest you start sending me some direct aggressive impulses so we'll see who becomes the slayer of your delusional sick mental degeneration thoughts?

Why attack Zameen and Sheila who tells the truth about yourself that only an idiot like you won't admit to and learn from the process? You got no class and Jamesm should just erase your filthy postings.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 21:26, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Freedom from reincarnation is never going to happen Newb slayer, no matter how many times you say it or wish it. So you better get over it. I agree with Hawaiian, you really need to get back on your meds. I laughed my ass off while reading your rant, you sound very much like a child who can't get his way. Grow up and start talking like an adult so people can understand what you're saying. You don't make much sense. But I'm sure you get that a lot in your everyday life. You have a very sick version of reality. But that is your version alone and I'm glad it's only you that has that opinion. Do you think maybe your mom didn't love you enough? Oh and lay off the porn, k?

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 02:27, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
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Is that you, Christian? Do you still live in Romania?

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:42, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I've included Newb's UNEDITED postings and included in bold a response to his delusional ranting. Hope we can learn something besides taking up valuable space on this website.

Silly newbs, all your robot newb antics were already answered 10fold in the first post. You lack reading comprehension. So you puppet cattle sheep newbs want to be slain mercilessly do you? Let’s begin.
To the newb clowns known as Sheila and Zameen: “you don't remember who you were in your last lifetime, how the heck is this going to make any difference?” Are you mentally retarded? It’s not about that; this was quiet clear from the get go. It’s about not liking living in a weakling shitty, snot filled, need to breathe just to stay alive disgustingly ugly human body, easily harmed and injured. It’s about a rejection of the present version of reality (which can be constructed an infinite number of other ways). Ignorant bondage robot, can you understand, that the present version of reality can be constructed an infinite number of other ways by Creation? Can you grasp this simple concept already mentioned in the first post? Can you understand that if Creation wanted to, it could make you not have to eat, not have to shit, not have to work to produce goods, not have any pain sensors, unlocking flight 900000000X easier, not be dependent on you and your kind’s noxious breeding bondage fetishes, to biological weapons, ray weapons, nuclear weapons, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, you C0CKRAOCH CHARGING BONDAGE NEWBS? Can you understand this simple concept, c0ck starved charging bondage robots? Just look at the sh!t that’s coming out of your mouth. I mean, it doesn’t even look like you’re trying to have a serious debate.

Sheila and Zameen were referring to YOU not knowing your own past life cycle reincarnations which plays a very important role on the current personality which apparently has become separated in your case. To call others “mentally retarded” because they have not yet evolved to Billy’s level where he can access his past personalities, which means everyone else, including you is beyond human logic and on the verge of delusion.

However, there are a few who do occasionally have a glimpse of their past personality’s experience and knowledge under certain conditions when their other 6th and 7senses are activated mostly through dreams or strong emotional events.
Creation does not have the option to decide who can by pass the material conscious belts, avoiding the reincarnation process and immediately move into the non-physical realms, that occurrence is dependent on each individual’s ability to do so through experience and knowledge gained through repeated incarnation which “normally” (without interferences) take between 40-60 million years, then another 60-80 billion years of EVOLUTION to become a pure spiritual Being.

“What would be the purpose in that? To stagnate and never evolve? Each subsequent life should have a chance to make themselves better because currently humans need a lot of work.” Wow just wow. See the previous paragraph again. Again you come with random garbage. Do you speak the language of logic you maggot bondage robot? Second of all you maggot b!tch, what’s it to you what motives someone has for that; that’s their own business. No one is stopping you from continuing your weapon building, noxious breeding vermin, mini me fetished, cock sucking expeditions with your fellow bondage robots if it turns you on. Those that want an exit must be given an exit. Can you understand this simple concept? Third of all, you stupid animal, - YOU - need a lot of work. You think just because you are fallible, everyone else is as well? You think everyone is at your special needs level? Don’t project your failings/shortcomings onto others. (AND NO YOU STUPID ANIMAL, YOU DON’T GET TO POINT AT ME AS BEING FALLIBLE BECAUSE I’M NOT SUGAR COATING MY WORDS WHILE YOU GET TO BOND OTHERS TO A 14X OVERPOPULATED TOXIC WASTELAND SURROUNDED BY WEAPONS IN A WEAKLING CRAP AND SNOT FILLED BODY)

No one on this board including those you refer to is in any way responsible for building any weapons so why are you implying they are doing so and insulting them, you are switching the bad people with the good ones which is delusional.

“What you're missing is that all people have free will. THEY choose to do all those things you speak about.” You robot charging b!tch. We’re not even talking about the same thing. Not everything is about you, you charging animal. Yes you have free will to bondage others to a 14x overpopulated toxic wasteland surrounded by weapons, to psychopath predators. I also have free will to knee kick you in the face right after I throw fireballs at you, which is coming you psychopath bondage animal. What exactly is your point you charging robot? Again, it doesn’t even look like you are trying to have a serious debate.

Define what you mean by “free will to bondage others in overpopulation”, this statement is a contradiction, how can someone being outside of others doing the overpopulation have “free will” over them when the ones doing the over population are the ones with the free will not to do so? Again switching roles from your delusional mind do not make sense, maybe it does for you so it’ll be advisable to take your medications before you post something here?

Sheila, I think you are stuck on some rectal residue, mini me fetished, weapon building, NOXIOUS BREEDING VERMIN concept that is meaningless in the whole scheme of the-infinite-number-of-other-versions-of-reality- that-could-exist things. This is not the only version of reality possible you rabbid animal. Can you understand this simple concept? You stupid charging animal, all of this was already answered in the first post. How stupid do you feel? By the way what are the chances that you are ugly and physically weak / unfit, and unappealing. Pyrokinesis ya. LULZ.

Have you even met or seen Sheila, so how can you say these nasty things about her?

To the charging bondage robot newb known as Hawaiian: “Newb does have some valid points on the discrepancies between the “masters/elite” known as parasites.... thoughts of world and universe domination at the expense of others.“ ROFL. YOU RABBID CHARGING ANIMAL. I don’t want universe domination; I want to be space fish, without your idiot restrictions that you have the audacity to force on everyone, just chilling out peacefully not in bondage to PSYCHOPATH ANIMALS LIKE YOURSELF AND LIVING IN A RESTRICTIVE HUMAN BODY.

Can you read simple English? This was already answered in the first post. Can you understand simple logic you rabbid charging animal? Me a “parasite”? ROFL, I mean really now, this is the best you can come up with. I want a peaceful exit from reincarnation

Who said you are a “parasite”, only you came to that conclusion unless you are part of the 144,128 former sons and daughters of heaven whose codex has been released because of the OM written by Billy? So that leaves the creator overlords and those here on Earth who occupy such positions where they do exist at the expense of others, so clearly you do not fall into either one of these categories, where did you get that idea of being a parasite, not from me but in your mind?
I did not “force” any idiotic restrictions on anyone including yourself, I just pointed out the relationship between those that want world and universal domination and if I had that power and used it, you would not be here ranting about it. By the way what is “space fish” which you desire?

Who the fvck do you think you are that you get to forcefully bond others to you without the option of a peaceful exit: freedom from reincarnation must be granted to those that want it. On your knees. I want you to beg for forgiveness, not suck c0ck like you were hoping, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. The true elite are back. We show up every few 10thousand years to give you a more personal taste of the bondage you crave, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE.

The idea you propose as “option of a peaceful exit from reincarnation” must be granted to those that “want” it goes against Creation laws. Are you kidding me, I’ll never go on my knees and beg to a delusion nut case like you!
So now you admit you are part of that “elite” “We show up every few thousand years to give a personal taste of the bondage you crave”. If so, then why are you directing that approach to the wrong people, why not go directly to the ones who have the true power on Earth and threaten them? They’ll come and arrest you in no time, amongst other things to make your delusional dream come true.

Meier’s words: “The world will reverberate from a powerful and merciless war cry, and cities will be destroyed, and the blood of human beings will flow in streams. Hatred and vindictiveness will flood the earth, and human beings will live with the delusional belief of a doubtful peace, which they hope in vain to attain, for a worldwide war will inundate the earth, and nobody will be spared; not the old, not the women and children, not the sick and the injured, and not the just and the peaceful.”

Billy was referring to conditions of WW3 should it occur.

and why should the women be spared, they are equally evil psychopaths, they are males in vaginal avatars after all, c0ckhungry charging bondage robots.
Some ask for a peaceful exit from reincarnation and you dare come to the discussion with your regujitated bondage fetishes. Are you ready to have fireballs thrown at you? Since you refuse to understand verbal logic (you must all either convince Creation to grant freedom from reincarnation to those that want it, or you must all halt reproduction on all planets to demand Creation to change its bondage laws to grant freedom from reincarnation to those that want it), perhaps you'll understand magic used against you logic, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. Enjoy being born in 20/40/80 years after your death and being enslaved (via reproduction) just like what you like to do, while some get to skim though your bondage in thousands of years. Enjoy the apocalypse bondage animals; it doesn't come often, and it will be giving out enriched extended lessons on the topic of bondage, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE.
--Newb slayer 20:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 22:27, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
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Markvd “Nice to meet you to, I do not know why you exist right now if you are so happy.”
I exist because you accept what is given. I exist because of YOUR force. Any other brilliant 2faced weasel questions? Just kidding, Happy Early April Fool’s Day.

You magnificent, amazing, beautiful, gods. Glory to all of you and to all of Creation’s Creations.

You’ve just been trolled. We did it out of boredom and for http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/f/fa/4tehlulz.jpg/618px-4tehlulz.jpg

Keep up the good work you amazing magnificent powerful glorious creatures that know no limits in your power and splendour. Your efforts are appreciated, you boundlessly generous Gods, you truly magnificent beings of splendour and power. And this applies to all of mankind, every last one of you, YOU MAGNIFICIENT BEAUTIFUL BEINGS OF AWESOMENESS. Much <33333. You magnanimous , splendid, godly gods.

*** The professional troll was due to appear if nothing more than simply from a Creational point of view, in addendum, notwithstanding other N reasons.

In conclusion, glory be to all of you splendid entities of awesomeness, YOU MAGNIFICENT AND PERFECT IMPERECT BEINGS (EACH AND EVERY LAST 1 OF YOU) AND GLORY BE TO CREATION. IT'S NOT ABOUT a GAME. YOU RISE LIKE THE REST. YOUR SUCCESS IS MY SUCCESS.

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 13:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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Christian,

Your words seem very christian.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 14:55, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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................not necessarily, there are those that rise the right way and those that do it the wrong way. Your way is the WRONG way Newb Slayer, but I still wish you well in your odd strategies. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:36, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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I, Ur, Aiur, your further queries on Jesus, saviours, angels, demons, crucifixions, exorcism, belief, dependency, triviality, limitations, repetition, needs, appetites, etc... have yielded a result. Refer to diagrams 69a, and 69b

69a
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/nicki-minaj-i-dont-need-to-rap-about-my-genitalia-to-be-successful-2012172

69b
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM

--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 13:33, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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Christian,

Thank you for the Youtube link. I tried to save it, but failed. I have some questions about it:

1. How long have you been hiding this monumental video?

2. Is he real? Have you made spectral analysis of the video?

3. Is there a period in your life when you belive that he is your God?

4. When I saw it, the video has gotten 51,618,149 views. How many percent of it is from you?

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 15:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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-newbslayer- you spelled "young,inexperienced loud mouth atheist" wrong. You see newb, you actually had to seek out this wiki, read your requisite pittance of information, process it through your hard line atheist filter, and deliver your hateful drivel(and it is truly drivel). Not one of these folks here have tried to find you and attack you online, nor would they because one of the things discussed here in this forum is those of us in society with such thoughts,feelings,and behavior as yours and trying to understand why it is happening, finding the correct, neutral positive way to remedy the hate, fear,ignorance,and maybe in your case dad was a little too friendly when mom was out of town, I don't know(you should ask reddit).

Anyhoo, for the most part we're all adults trying to find a better, more peaceful way of evolving and acquiring knowledge, wisdom, and love. if that offends you, then you should stop coming here and picking on everyone and just go back to reddit or ebaumsworld or wherever you smolder. your just being a d!#& and no one really cares.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:20, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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Talk:Semjase

2012-01-14T04:54:36Z

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Sfath /father of Ptaah/ father of Semjase.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 07:01, 29 August 2010 (BST)
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== Lucanus said ... ==

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70 years?! And in another universe?!
Sounds pretty far both in time and space.
Yet I feel she is close to my heart. She is here and now in my heart, because I choose so. It is as simple as that.

--[[User:Lucanus|Lucanus]] 10:41, 11 September 2010 (BST)
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== Derrick said ... ==

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Is there more information on semjase's husband?
I would imagine that he is commited now to earth as a terrestrial earth human...Who is he now? and is he aware of the teachings of creation? I know it's kind of a silly question but I wonder...Is semjase aware of his existance here on earth? assuming of course that she would have checked in on him from time to time. peace Derrick

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 23:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
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== Saalome84Blue said ... ==

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If Contact Report Nr.3 is corect, then now (Jan/2012) Semjase is 366 years old.

--[[User:Saalome84Blue|Saalome84Blue]] 02:16, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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366 years is not too old, they must have a lot of free time on there home planets.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 03:20, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Thank you Semjase:) may the Timmers successfuly heal you of your unfortunate wounds. Salome

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 04:54, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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Talk:Ptaah

2012-01-14T04:52:12Z

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Hi Ptaah.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 07:13, 1 July 2010 (BST)
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Hello,Ptaah
I love you very much!
I want to see you.

--love 02:35, 10 July 2010 (BST)
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== Gaiachild said ... ==

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Is he home at this time or still on earth, he should speek to us, i think many people would like to here about he's thinking for our planet. if he really is.

--[[User:Gaiachild|Gaiachild]] 23:02, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Saalome84Blue said ... ==

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At this time (Jan/2012), Ptaah is 794 years old.

--[[User:Saalome84Blue|Saalome84Blue]] 01:55, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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794 is not too old, I wonder who lived to be the longest living Plejaren human in there race of humanity.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 03:19, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you Ptaah:)

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 04:52, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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Talk:FIGU Special Bulletin 64

2011-12-31T22:49:43Z

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I never knew there existed a FIGU USA, so no loss for mankind at all.:) The teachings should be spread from a reliable straight to the point and living correctly perspective. I think they should just go online on Youtube or any and all services and spread the teachings throught a central hub of excellence rather than of mediocrity that could compromise victory.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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I just read a letter from Methusalem's blog talking about the figu usa and his apparent discontent with the core member's and their treatment of him and Billy's treatment of him which according to this blog if it is Methusalem actually writing this, sounds quite disconcerting but also it sounds like someone who is very angry and who is lashing out a bit.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:43, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Zameen,

Is the forum for USA FIGU this website?:

http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi

If so, than it is still active and Billy does answer questions coming from members of this website as recently as Dec 24 2011. Where did you read Methusalem’s blog, it should be interesting reading?

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 19:16, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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http://methimeier.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/an-open-letter-to-the-figu/ This is the link Hawaiian. Salome!!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 22:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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Talk:FIGU Special Bulletin 64

2011-12-30T23:43:56Z

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I have read the living words of teaching from mr. Billy Meier. The teaching of Billy are not from this earth. They are spiritual teaching which norrish the mind and spirit. I thank mr. Billy so much for his effort and time to open the truth to mankind on earth. Thank you for more than a billion times.
The teaching of Billy will be known by all human beings.

Praise be to Creation.
Alexander Awadzi

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== Mark said ... ==

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Where do these people come from claiming he's Jesus Christ? They must come from the stone age or further back. :) Just have a good laugh and move on, these aren't the droids we're looking for.

--Mark 00:41, 30 July 2010 (BST)
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== William1234 said ... ==

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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it's better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won't be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused.

--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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== William1234 said ... ==

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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it's better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won't be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused.

--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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William youre definately not the only one to make mistakes! Its all part of evolution though so its fine/ok.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
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Wow this is beyond fabrication. I love how to deflect critisim you try to say every other religion is false. That Jesus never exsisted, & some character Billy Meier made up to sell some books is the real prophet. Likewise the idea that mohammad was the reincarnation of this so-called real jesus is totally bogus. Have you ever read any holy books? I've studied religion for yrs and your ideas are off the wall. Would the reincarnated self try to go to war with your past tribes? Seems highly unlikely. Also muslims think of all christians as infiedels. Not my idea of a glowing peaceful prophet. Again this site is just telling a huge amount of lies to move books and silly tapes. Highly shameful for Billy as our great prophet of the times.

--[[User:TheTruth|TheTruth]] 23:47, 25 June 2011 (BST)
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== Sarah said ... ==

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So wait, people actually believe that Billy claimed to be a reincarnation of Jesus? O_o I honestly can't see how one could make the comparison. Isnt the fictional Jesus just a distortion?

--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 16:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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@truth-You need to read so mich more before saying such things. Dont worry though, all of the information I'm suggesting is all free. The only thing you need to spend is some time reading. Maybe you'll figure it out, maybe your not ready, who knows

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 19:11, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
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Talk:How did our universe and our world come into existence?

2011-11-27T19:42:40Z

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I have learned that there is a very special 11 year old girl multiplied many times and that we carry over in a sense traits we have learned to a certain degree. I suggest everyone list down there worst traits and improve upon them to head down a more stable and creative path, rather than a barbaric destructive path. :) Thanks once again 2011 edition BEAM contribution.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:23, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I just noticed someone is cheating in terms of life on Earth all fingers pointed to "GILGAMESH" j/k

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:37, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi Mark, along with the worst traits one should also write down their best ones to keep a balanced perspective. Also very important to forgive those that you feel have wronged you as chances are they did not realize what they had done.
I've always felt my essence was Justice - and that's probably why I called the corporal a liar, because he was one. But I've forgiven him because he's only human and only wanted to protect his fellow officers kids from being charged with a crime. I've even forgiven his fellow officer for following me to work to try and intimidate me. It's been a hard road standing up for what is right but well worth it.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 19:57, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I am going to avoid helping single individuals from now on and try and come up with a larger strategy to help all of mankind instead. I do not feel humanity at this time has shown enough to warrant effort, they must find there own path in order to really understand their own unique spirit. Many lifetimes from now they will get better but best to avoid them when they are at there worst.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 23:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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People are aware of what they do, it is if they choose not to do it to others because they are advanced enough to know right from wrong. It is true every lifetime is different but once they do something incorrect it is very hard to forget it because it remains until they pass on once again to the next life. People must be very careful and cautious when acting because people will see them for who they really are and it is in most cases not a pleasant site to see.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 23:10, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Leandro from Argentina said ... ==

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Hi I'm Leandro, I wonder if the pagan religions or ethnic continue to exist

--[[User:Leandro from Argentina|Leandro from Argentina]] 19:18, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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James- it looks like knaves have invaded this site again. uuugghhh!!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 22:01, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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Talk:Contact Report 214

2011-10-24T23:53:17Z

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== Carlos Gomis said ... ==

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Thank you for posting the article

--Carlos Gomis 18:17, 16 July 2010 (BST)
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== Cat said ... ==

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Can anyone tell me how much, if anything, written in the bible, is true? Have they simply taken actual events, such as the crossing of the desert, and embellished them to appear more fantastic than they really were? Where is the account is Jmmanuel's life between the ages of 12 and 33? There's too many holes in that book for anyone to take it seriously. Thank you Billy for waking us up!!!

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 22:12, 24 October 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Cat- some things could be considered true but alas, they were not experienced by anyone with name Jesus.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:35, 24 October 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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The many times the bible has been "UPDATED" expect new highly effective sounding words to add to the universal remote control of religion has on humanity. :) Truth is definitive, liars always have to waggle there way out with all kinds of hokey pokey antics.

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== Zameen said ... ==

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Mark- indeed so true. Saalome gaam nan ben uurda ganeeber asala hesperoona!!!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 00:53, 25 October 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Contact Report 214

2011-10-24T22:35:48Z

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Peace in Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen things all my life but tell no one until now.
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they seem to be destroying the sun. Is it possible the sun will turn Red and the Moon? The HAARP weapon has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.

Peace in wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.
Peace in Wisdom,
Kevin

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Samari said ... ==

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Can you help me with a land mark proximity of the 3rd Nuclear Facility in Iran!! Please..

--[[User:Samari|Samari]] 07:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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Sorry, I am unfamiliar with any land marks in Iran. My appologies.
Peace in Wisdom

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:07, 3 June 2011 (BST)
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== Mrnorm said ... ==

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Things happen all the time but because now facts and figures get reported though out the world 1000 times faster than just 100 years ago ... because we here about every thing all the time as soon as it happens no mater where it happens at... we know about it with in mins. things always happen but thanks to radio TV the internet ect...we here about now and all the time over and over again...

--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:14, 6 October 2011 (BST)
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i should add... things that happen now have happen 100 years ago 1000 years ago 10,000 years agoo a million years ago ./.. but now we just here about it now over and over again as soon as it happens ... things are getting worse are better... the world and its weather is just alive as a living world that makes changes to its self on a dailey bases

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== Mrnorm said ... ==

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things arent getting worse ... ARE'NT !

--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:29, 6 October 2011 (BST)
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I was wondering if any of you psychics or enlightened ones know what will occur on 28/10/11. This date is coming up really fast and i'm getting worried.
This is the official end date of the mayan calander and also for those of you who are into your numerology 2+8+1=11 therefore 11/11. This is significant I know it!
What i've read so far seems to be very pessimistic. I try to remain a positive spirit none the less but I would love to know the truth about this date.

Anyone care to ellaborate?

WHEN WE AWAKE WE HAVE TWO SIMPLE CHOICES,
GO BACK TO SLEEP AND DREAM
OR
WAKE UP AND CHASE THOSE DREAMS

THE CHOICE IS YOURS!

--[[User:Violetlight|Violetlight]] 17:56, 21 October 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Violetlight. hello and welcome to the BEAM wiki site:) I believe the answer's you seek are well written and logged here in the contact reports section. just use the search function and type in a search. I believe that Billy had explained that the Mayans stopped making the calendar primarily because their civilization was collapsing in on itself due to poor water supplies,devastating droughts, famine, and overpopulation, and they could no longer devote precious time to the calendar. according to this information, they did not possess any mystical knowledge of any sort and knew nothing of an "end of the world" scenario.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:35, 21 October 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Semjase's Letter

2011-10-16T05:17:37Z

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== Markvd said ... ==

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Spirits searching for planets, very interesting. I think they said there are 50 billion souls in our region not exactly sure but that sounds like a lot of misguided folks. Time to awaken and find our way back to truth. :) If that number is correct that means that we are severely underdeveloped mentally in our consciousness until materialism and greed make way for reason. Until that day where no man can be bought with a price tag shall we break our shackles.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:45, 15 October 2011 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Hmm, the first sentence here should be:

Quite unacquainted with your script, I exert myself (try hard) to...

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== Zameen said ... ==

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Indeed

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 06:17, 16 October 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Erra

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== Jona said ... ==

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Do they have shopping Malls like ours & restaurants to go to? How do they dress ? Like ours?

--Jona 15:47, 26 May 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I've seen there clothing attire in space, it looks quite similar to the Star Trek crews clothing. I think we here on Earth mock everything we see, that's why they don't want to make contact with us. Thanks a lot Star Trek creators. I wonder if they all wear the same attire in space like TEAM Plejaren. :)

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== Indira said ... ==

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Thank You Billy, otherwise we wouldnot know this wonderful information.

--Indira 12:08, 14 July 2010 (BST)
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I wish our planet was the same with no hate,were people can help each other and love is in the air.
That would be the perfect place

--[[User:Ramymusic|Ramymusic]] 09:33, 25 September 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Compared to Earth, Erra is paradise!

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 16:31, 25 September 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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has anyone else read the 39th contact on Ben Stevens myspace page? it is truly informative and amazing!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 17:57, 25 September 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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I'm reading it now. Very interesting indeed!

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 22:10, 25 September 2010 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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The 39th CR was interesting. I have come up with an ingenious method to help Billy gain at least 1% materialistic Earth rating.:) ....................and the winner for irreproducible UFO content goes to BEAM from Switzerland. Sorry folks he couldn't show up to the awards show BUT we will gladly send him the award along with ??????????? insert material needs Billy and family is in need of.:) j/k

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 04:27, 26 September 2010 (BST)
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== Edinachman said ... ==

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Do we have any insight into the language learning techniques?

--[[User:Edinachman|Edinachman]] 08:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Alive said ... ==

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I have just four comments.

1. Genetic alterations: All pubic hair removed!

I welcome Erran scientists's breakthrough in removing all pubic hair. This magnificent invention should be introduced to all civilizations that already have genetic engineering technology. It is recommended for the governments on various planets in DERN to apply this technology, while it is imperative for the governments on Terra to do so as soon as possible. If the situation demands it, United Nations's Pubic Hair Removal Task Force should have been formed before the end of this year.

2. Both monogamy and polygamy exist - one man to many women but not the other way around (subsequent reincarnation as the opposite sex equals out the apparent inequality).

I can not give a clear comment on this matter. I feel ambivalent toward this complexity. Some part of me gets anger because of this onesided patriarchal polygamy, while the other part of me gets calm and relieved because this kind of polygamy seems fair enough for me.

3.A married man may have a personal building into which no wife may enter.

I hope it is also applied to ex-wives and ex-girlfriends, since they have greater ability to disrupt a married man's tranquilty and serenity.

4. Sex and cohabitation are permitted without marriage but not having children.

I think the time has come for Terran religious leaders, theoriticians, fundraisers, organized and unorganized fanatics and hardliners, to meet in a great convention to issue a common decision to adopt this truth and put it as a cornerstone of their creeds and an inseparable part of their dogmas.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 19:47, 25 April 2011 (BST)
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== Ruslan said ... ==

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I will soon emigrate there to live )

--[[User:Ruslan|Ruslan]] 06:34, 9 October 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Ruslan,

I have a sincere empathy for you, but please remember that Erran women have much higher frequency than Terran men, so you should be careful. And extra caution should be given whenever you meet a high voltage beautiful woman over there.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 08:00, 9 October 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Erran and DAL women also respond in similar fashion, as Terran females if a guy don’t pay notice in their radiant essence that requires a mutual emotional response. In moments like these, sometimes a nightmare is much more accommodating!

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:05, 9 October 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Hawaiian,

Thank you for your information. How about Seritanian women?

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 08:55, 10 October 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I wouldn't be surprised if there are some official directive or creed in regards to any interchange or contact with human males by the cautious Seritanian women since their female only implementation initiative on their planet took effect.

I would assume they would conduct a very thorough investigation on any possible relationship between a female member and human male. If there indicates a positive match with encouraging results, most likely she would be allowed her wishes but would probably be banned from continuing that relationship on their planet to preserve the status quo. A hard decision never the less, so maybe for the sake of the planet, it would be wise for males to consider the consequences and find someone else not from Seritan.

Just think about it, if all human males on Earth were suddenly transported to another planet, all wars, rapes, 95% of murders and crime would immediately cease to exist. So what the Seritan women did on their planet was not as drastic and more subtle, but the same result, so in their accomplishment, I would consider their decision as logical and humane.

Besides there are vastly more planets populated in the DERN universe with problematic human males to go around, why contaminate a planet that is evolving quite progressively?

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:13, 10 October 2011 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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So do they have different countries on Erra, like we have on Earth?

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 01:06, 11 October 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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To Sanjin. from what I have read, they are totally united. during an election, a recount can be determined by a very few, over more than one planet. Now that is not to say they do not names for different area's but on the whole, it seems to me that they have one spiritual body of leaders that, along with advice from Arahat Athersata, and the people of the respective planets, govern Erra. I think:0D

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 03:27, 11 October 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Zameen,

I see our "friends" are getting more creative in signing up for new accounts. :-)

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:25, 13 October 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Hawaiian- I have taken notice as well. I'm curious of Mr. James Moore's opinion.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 00:52, 13 October 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Erra

2011-10-11T02:27:24Z

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Talk:FIGU Special Bulletin 62

2011-10-04T01:29:01Z

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== Markvd said ... ==

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This goes into the "EGO" level of thinking. Paint your own picture through visual, audio, publications, although you are truly not that person in your everyday life. Everything is like an advertisement. Once we learn that these are for egomaniacs and there kind and find the true ability and capability within each of ourselves we are lambs following the sheep universal remote controller. If Earth and it's people like to be controlled upon request continue on your way to oblivion. A balloon can only inflate to a certain level before imploding. If you decide to man up and grow up then you will find a vastly changed and responsible world where good around the cosmos gravitate towards only the genuine. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 18:39, 3 October 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Whats up with all these new accounts with the exact same naming structure and the same two number style? They also sign up at the exact same time. Guess I'm paranoid, whatev.....

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 02:29, 4 October 2011 (BST)
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Talk:The Earth Human Speaks Of A Love That He Does Not Know

2011-10-01T21:17:55Z

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== Markvd said ... ==

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The definitions of many words have not definitively been or even resolutely translated correctly up to this time because many have broken so many laws of creation that they think they are above anything that lives or breathes. They set rules on the planet by there governments and agents which are simple yet they cannot follow there own man made stipulations. Until they grow up and wise up this word "Love" will be foreign to them for a long time still. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 23:36, 26 September 2011 (BST)
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== Alex7 said ... ==

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Everything in meiers texts or writings resonates deep within me like I have known the information before! Whenever I read it, I seem to understand most of it, maybe not in the broadest aspect.

--[[User:Alex7|Alex7]] 06:30, 27 September 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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I think I read somewhere that it was indeed NOT Jmmanuel's tomb where the talmud was found.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 21:08, 27 September 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Until all are one so says Optimus Prime and the Autobots. I agree but I feel the fragmented pieces are not organized so well yet. One day things will be more steady rather than chaotic...............maybe. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 23:21, 28 September 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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I thought that the Talmud was found in another person's tomb.the person who actually wrote the Talmud. could you please help me corroborate this James?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:55, 28 September 2011 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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I like this format James. Very nice!

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 05:18, 29 September 2011 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Zameen I think the answer is here: [[The Talmud of Jmmanuel - Introduction]]

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 22:23, 29 September 2011 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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I have lost my copy of the TJ but I remember that it said that Jmmanuel actually died in India but his son brought back the scrolls, ,written with Judas Iscariots help, afterwards and placed them in the tomb. Then sealed it.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 22:25, 29 September 2011 (BST)
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== Stevieo said ... ==

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BEAUTIFUL

--[[User:Stevieo|Stevieo]] 08:10, 1 October 2011 (BST)
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== Stevieo said ... ==

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AS I READ THIS EVEN B4 I READ THIS IT SEEM THAT ALL MY LIFE I ALL WAYS KNEW THIS DEEP DOWN IN MY MIND/HEART/SOUL THAT LOVE IS THE FUNDAMENTAL OF ALL.BUT AS I GREW UP SOCIETY/PEOPLE HAVE PUT ME DOWN BUT NOW THAT I READ THIS IT HELP ME REMEBER WHO I WAS AND AM AND ALL WAYS WELL BE..........."LOVE".THANK YOU EDWARD ALBERT MEIER FOR HELPING ME REMEBER.I CRY IN TEARS OF JOY.

--[[User:Stevieo|Stevieo]] 08:34, 1 October 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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I just heard Michael Horn tell a caller on a recent show he was on that Jmmanuels son Joseph put the Talmud in Jmmanuels Tomb 70 years later.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 22:17, 1 October 2011 (BST)
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Talk:The Earth Human Speaks Of A Love That He Does Not Know

2011-09-28T22:55:23Z

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2011-09-27T20:08:32Z

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Talk:Contact Report 424

2011-09-21T21:55:01Z

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== interwake said ... ==

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The explanation given for electro magnetic delusion of abductions is beneath even the intelligence of the Giza penis heads. Sorry the truth penetrates even the sphinxcter of the bottomless pyramids. Shame on you dear Aqurius with Moon in Scorpio. One simply must update to better technology from NASA if they cant tell one alien lie from another.

--interwake 16:54, 29 March 2010 (BST)
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== newinitiation said ... ==

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Billy and the Plejarens talk about contacts outside of military and noncivilian kind.
There exists many purported reports from Military sources alleging contacts with aliens (or is this the work of the shadowy group?).
Because Billy and the plejarens cannot talk about contacts concerning the military sorts we can only assume that minute section of witness testimony from disclosure may just be true.

--newinitiation 11:54, 8 April 2010 (BST)
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== john said ... ==

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This is very, VERY confusing. As why is Ptaah saying that what happened to the Hills was untrue and caused by delusions infered by the electromagnetic field of the Earth. Where as in Contact report 37, Semjase explains that they are beings from the Zeta Reticuli star system. ?????? This is the first real contradiction I've read in all these cantact reports. And furthermore, though not mentioned anywhere in the Contact reports, how could someone like Whitley Strieber not be considered to have a real experience very similar to the Hills as well as Travis Walton. I believe in all of this, but this puts a strain on my belief, only as it is such clear contridiction. Could someone please explain this glaring discrepancy!

--john 21:08, 12 April 2010 (BST)
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== john said ... ==

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well???

--john 17:17, 14 April 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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John,

I would have to agree with you, Contact Note 37 regarding Semjase's comments contradicts Ptaah's more recent statements regarding the abduction of the Hills couple. The Plejarens are also human and prone to mistakes, why Ptaah chose to counter his daughter's remarks remains a mystery?

Maybe it's an attempt to stop other people's delusional aspiration in claiming the same type of abductions from the same or different ET...who knows..maybe you should ask Ptaah himself? There are just too many agendas, both Earthly and non-Earthly sources in this "equation"

--Hawaiian 00:46, 15 April 2010 (BST)
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== Thomas57 said ... ==

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There are several inconsistencies in the Contact(37 & 424) reporting data - of which this is one. In 1975 Semyase says the Hill's WERE taken and experimented upon and 2006 Ptaah tells Billy that the 'electromagnetic earth energies are the causal agent of the Hills 'abduction.

While I am not 'muddying over Ptaah's comments, perhaps - it behooves ALL of us reading ANY material to cross reference it and to think about the consequences to exposing more than necessary to others.

--[[User:Thomas57|Thomas Horner]] 00:17, 14 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Thomas57 that was a good find.:) I think someone told a little too much info than was suppose to be known at the time "Semjase" and maybe my guess is the High Council instructed Ptaah to reject all claims to ease fears in man of Earth. At a later date all may be revealed. There are some truths that must be revealed at the right time. I'm sure Semjase was grounded for at least 100 years of year 1,000 year life cycle. :) j/k

--Mark 07:58, 14 June 2010 (BST)
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== Newinitiation said ... ==

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The Plejarens had acknowledged that they were too trusting of earth human beings and that they had taken our words at face value until the truth got the better of them.
Also they didn't have the sonean technology at that time to make things unequivocally clear.
As they said they aren't perfect nor are they superhuman beings capable of everything.
As for the electromagnetic disturbances of the earth which influenced the hills, I think they were referring to the Giza intelligence's telenotic electromagnetic mind control devices used on them to bring about a false memory just as they had influenced several other human beings in the past.

--[[User:Newinitiation|Newinitiation]] 04:36, 3 October 2010 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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I think that Newinitiation is right. Basically they initially jumped to a conclusion based on false evidence (witness testimonials and similar things), which they also do explain in CR424.

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 20:34, 3 October 2010 (BST)
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== Mrnorm said ... ==

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i feel it being sad that some how we cant gain there trust as in helping our world by telling our goverments into getting there act together.Another thing, how on earth can we even think of lowering our population down to 1/2 billion...people have babys even if they cant even aford to feed them..how do you nuter a population? with new tecnology there would be new jobs,and that could end the use of fossel fuels, why stop using telpathicly in contacting us humans? In so doing,giving some humans of this earth the knowledge to acomplishing these things, why are we just a tourist stop? like china we have nothing to sell are trade with you,you take what you want and help if you want,i truely do want to see the big picture and not wate till death to visit the spirit world... how do we live to be 999 years old...what do you see in advances for earths near future ?

--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 21:05, 22 August 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Mrnorm as they have stated in there situation as well that they had to earn there capabilities through responsibility and as they progressed voila new ideas came as they correctly used what they were currently in possession of. Although we are a loooooooooooooooooooong ways off from correctly using all our capabilities we have to start off one step at a time and reducing the population so everyone can benefit would be a good start. :) Any idea turns into a destructive purpose you know you are going in the wrong direction. It must be a balanced progressive growth.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 04:00, 23 August 2011 (BST)
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== Mrnorm said ... ==

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How in a hill of beans can you lower a population of 7 billion to a 1/2 billon with out a catastrophe of some kind and who would ever want a world war are sickness of any kind... . zer0 population groth will never happen not unless the ET's step in and as you say that will never happen not in a thoooouusan ---trillion years ..just knowing by what has all ready taken place in earths humanity...i wonder if there has been worlds like us in the past and how it has turned out for them the last 21,000,000 years are 3500 years are any where between years

--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:23, 21 September 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Mrnorm. the proposed idea means lowering the population in a safe and humane way and setting a fair and balanced criteria for having children which if you ask me, is sorely needed anyways. people with no business having children are HAVING children all over the world not to mention the church saying "go forth and multiply" only for the intent of creating more stupid followers. Billy and the Plejaran are suggesting we take 'breaks' from having kids at certain intervals and setting up a system of pre-requisites that establish whether or not you should have a kid. for example:if someone is addicted to crystal-meth, and receives welfare then maybe they shouldn't have a child until they can be an honest and positive contributor to his community i.e; having a job, being productive in some way and not doing drugs.there are millions of people of every race, all over the planet, irresponsibly having children everyday without first thinking about these factors. as I mentioned before, taking a break from child births for the given amount of time could begin an age gap that with time, can dramatically ease the strain on infrastructure, resources and clean and healthy living space. no one is suggesting a catastrophe but rather a unified consciousness on the topic of overpopulation and a neutral positive assessment of this crisis that is unfolding in front of our eyes.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 22:55, 21 September 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Chapter 4 - PLEYARENS

2011-09-21T01:11:39Z

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== Roob said ... ==

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I was pretty sure I read that the plejarens can have upto 3 wives. So why does this chapter say that Plejarens are monogomous?

--Roob 07:20, 18 July 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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The Plejaran wives get one husband only.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 07:26, 18 July 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I can't imagine 3 wives. Is that 3 wives for each planet residence you occupy. Let's say you have time share on 3,000 planets, that would be a whole lot of loving. :) j/k

--Mark 12:39, 18 July 2010 (BST)
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== zameen said ... ==

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Mark your a nut:) but I like where your going!

--zameen 16:57, 18 July 2010 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Hi Roob.

It is true that the Plejarens are monogamous, even though the Plejaren men may have several wives. The book "The Law of Love" explains that Earth humans have a false understanding of monogamy. Even though the men may have several wives, the marriage is still considered as one bond and one union (mono-gamy = one-marriage) with the man and the wives. This sentence from the Goblet of Truth gives some more details:

32)And it is rightful that the woman has one man only, because it is only through one man alone that a procreation (fertilisation) for descendants can come about; a man, however, may have three women, because he is capable of undertaking several procreations (fertilisations) with several women, but it is given for him to be able to be fair to all women in all things and in their provision and in their equality; and if a man has several women then a bond (marriage) applies with each of them, within which the other women are also included and take part.

It is one bond of a loving relationship, even though there are several members in the one union.

--Sanjin 19:16, 18 July 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I have an ALTERNATE interpretation. Once the the BIG BANG occured we were all in one tiny spec of existence, HENCE maximum distribution of outgoing matter once the BANG occured. EVENTUALLY once we reach that absolute absolutum they speak of we will all be together ONCE again. :) We will have a ton of wives reaching level 1 absolutum once accumulated. I am ABSOLUTELY full of joy at this time. :) j/k

--Mark 22:13, 18 July 2010 (BST)
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== Mrnorm said ... ==

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Am i wrong here... 21,000,000 million years ago you had or created your first space ship for outer space yet you say that the plejarens are only 3500 years ahead of us ... usa...Im sure the plejarens would have every thing under control if they so wished when it comes to contacting earth goverments on the down low...What is the mission of the plejarens ... if not to make a impact on earth humans... 300 years here and what have you to show for it... hummm?....Humans still have all these wars...starving people GREED and so on...truly how have you helped? Giving and taking must be equel... not if you have greed and the rich get richer and want more... you had 300 years to make a difference in that thinking.... all you do is come to earth for Vacation...to show off your new beamships...PREDECTIONS for 1977... you could repeat these same predections for the next 30 years and still come out about the same... ya think? now where are these Plejarens when you need them ... thats right there doing there mission which is to help humanity.... ya think?THE mission of the Plejarens should be to contact heads of goverments and the ones that need to know the truth,and the ones that are hungry for power and world domenence and profit your job is to convence these power hungry nuts to change there way of thinking.....make sure they dont gain access to the beamships, after all...your 3500 years more advance than us ... so think like it and act like it ...as if, like earth humans could get control to a beamship with out the know how of doing such a thing... this world needs world leadership... just like your world with the counsel on another planets...... how is this world going to learn and change with out plejarens learership and how the consel works for you...at least half of this worlds population beleaves in ET's now... show them ... us that your human.. but do it at a far...TV... just tell earth the truth ... in time they will learn....300 years the plejarens have been here and yet i dont see where you have been a benafit to earth just by talking to one person and mind thinking to 2 women...by now you should know what steps to take and who to take them with... you know by doing the right thing at the right time can make all of the right changes for this greedy humanity...... maybe i see now that you see this world as being hopeless do to you took a jump into the future... but yet your all still here you havnt 100% pulled out of this world...not all of man kind would demand offical contact with the plejarens are whoever...just pick out the need to know people of earth... after all you have watch our TV broadcasts, talk to the world in this way...COME ON ... your advanced by more than 21 million years but yet your thinking like your only 3500 years advanced than us...it needs repeating so it can sink in... ya think...

--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 21:14, 19 September 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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They have given every opportunity to change our fate but we didnt' listen. I guess you could say we aren't educated enough yet to comprehend common sense. There are many levels of understanding, once we reach a certain HIGH level of understanding as a whole then we may be rewared with new adventures. First we must conquer our rather simple meager problems on Earth. If we can't solve elemtary level decision making how can we wisely upgrade ahead of our time. :) You also have to take into account this is the free will universe guidelines thus by laws of creation no manipulation can take place under certain circumstances.

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== Mrnorm said ... ==

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Who is this "we didnt lison people" THE problem is ,is that it was said at a wisper... that wisper didnt get the rich&greedy peoples atension...now did it...theres lots of peoples lissoning out there and you know it...so dont use that for an excuce any longer...you got to stand on there breathing tube if you want to get them to lisson and change there ways ... theres got to be a buck in it for them... the "greedy"... all im asking is that the E T's show there face and be up front and honest with people of earth... and stop it with the GAMES...if we arent educated enough... Educate us...we wont reach this high level of understanding untill the Plejarens show there face to the right people...earth is just looking for guidence in the right direction...and not manipulation are any up grades ... your putting the carage before the horse, your making a mounton out of a moul hill... our way of thinking needs to be up graded and this needs to be done for the rich and greedy and powerfull...no more excuces with your 3500 advanced years way of thinking... where theres a way theres a free will...Our goverments dont know about your free will way of thinking... Ya Think ?

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== Markvd said ... ==

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That would be the normal response from current Earth education level. Give me what I have not earned. I suggest reading the spirit teachings in detail to further advance your thinking and then eventually................... in time and with patience, something lacking here on our planet Earth shall our problems be solved. If one were to show there face then the danger would be great would it not, imagine how many people would try to manipulate a fraction of there capabilities for incorrect purposes. If they cannot currently utilize the simplistic design in truth how can the with a straight eye utilize more complex abilities truthfully. I suggest each person find inner peace first and then venture out into other venues. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:00, 20 September 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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mmmmm, Mrnorm
your asking for the cut, the slice, the lift, the entry and finally, after the chewing(which you have finally done like a calf)expect us to taste it for you!! You are a knave.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 02:11, 21 September 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Contact Report 125

2011-09-14T04:36:35Z

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== Alive said ... ==

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I wonder how many Jacobuses on this planet. Men who need female partners to be able to see the broader picture of reality, which in itself is a fragment of another broader picture, which, in the final analysis, is a cell in the much more broader picture of reality.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:05, 6 September 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Good job, Benjamin. And very much appreciated.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 03:17, 7 September 2011 (BST)
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== Barbarian216 said ... ==

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What I find puzzling from this contact report from another more recent one in which Billy avoiding an head on car collision that Semjase expressed gratitude that Billy’s family (Eva and kids) were saved, but Billy expressed some regrets that his “other” family member, Gilgamesha was not included as well. She was severely disabled by another car collision and certainly weighed heavily on Billy’s mind, not too mention his brother being killed by a drunken driver.

These things certainly have a very negative effect on one’s psyche as Semjase admits. But what I’m concerned about is whether the Plejarens did a more thorough investigation as to the actual causes of these accidents occurring to Billy’s immediate family and friends or rather if some other sinister influences were responsible for causing such events to occur? It would not have been an isolated case since constant interferences in BEAM’s work has always occurred and continue to this day. Those who are proficient in the German language would probably find some indicator(s) in the translations if they do exist?

Billy:
… Well,… it really hits me, because even if one has already often experienced the same, it still lashes out on the psyche again and again. One really doesn't like to lose a human being.

Semjase:
173. I don't, because in your life, you already have so many things that must be processed and taken in, by which many other human beings would be broken.

Analyzing the ancient Lyrian and Vegan names of both the male and female gender, one cannot help but notice the majority has similar characteristics, but in some cases (mostly males) are stand alone and bear negative connotations like in the names of Deukalon = “Self-serving Man” or Dakar = “Hot Blooded Man”.

Yet if one was to “formulate” a different combination as to “enhance” these characteristics, say pairing a female named Flujdasa = “Woman who knows the Non-Comprehensible and the Non-Ascertainable” to a male named Geblemon = “Man who knows the Solution”.

Logically Flujdasa and Geblemon will hopefully produce an offspring with a combination from both parents that bear an enhanced human version. Never mind the free will of love, it’s the mission that really matters. Naming of humans are very important and should be compatible to their particular characteristics and attributes not because the name sounds good in the hopes some positive factor will result because of that name (which is abuse).

As often in ancient Hawaiian culture, some names are strictly reserved for only those that have a certain characteristic otherwise unfortunate events will occur if it is not compatible for those who once had those names will not “merge” into higher evolutionary status if the current personality does the opposite of what that name represents. At least on a material Conscious plane this endeavor is valid and probably the reason why the living Plejaren all have unique names.

Mahalo for the translations Benjamin Stevens, I’m just waiting for someone to log in with the name of Gotamas = “The Man Who is Greater Than a God”! Then all of our problems will be resolved especially the females, would you care to make that change Alive?

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:47, 8 September 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Aloha Hula-hula Hawaiian,

All of those names seem nice for me. So far I did not find any name with negative connotation. Some names seem close to Greek, some close to Sanskrit. The most intriguing name I found is Driada (Tree Nymph), which triggers a formation of fantasy in my mind. I do not why, and, as you may have guessed, I do not care much.

"Lyra" and "Wega" seem like a word play for me. Lyra is harp, Wega is harp player. The instrument and the operator. Are Lyran and Wegan languages two radically different languages, or are they two dialects of a single language?

Mister Billy's saying about sadness related to the dead persons is interesting. It seems to me that he was talking about parting, not about death, but I am not sure. I will read his words again tonight.

“The Man Who is Greater Than a God”? Could he handle the hysteria of Stormy Woman?

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 12:49, 8 September 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I find it a little puzzling that in Contact Report 124 which occurred in Nov 1974, Billy speaks of the unfortunate car accident of his daughter Gilgamesha which did not occur until the 1990’s.

Contact Report 124, Nov 11 1974

Semjase:
4. I'm talking about the fact that you and your family, your wife, Methusalem and Eva, escaped from a serious accident only by your presence of mind and by your quick reaction.

Billy:
Oh, you know that already? Moreover, Atlantis and Gilgamesha also belong to my family, and the two weren't there when it crashed. Thus, you are illogical when you speak of my family, because it was truly only a part of my family.

Contact Report 125, Dec 11 1979

Semjase:
169. Gilgamesha will succumb to a very serious car accident and will become severely disabled at the beginning of the nineties, around the time she comes of age.

Contact Report 239, Dec 20 1991

Billy:
Of course. Then that is also clear. – Well – you are surely oriented over the fact that our child, Gilgamesha, had a very serious car accident on the 9th of August, such that since then, she can no longer hear and can no longer speak, and also her arms, hands, and fingers are no longer fully functional, as she must also learn to walk again and still carries a metal frame on her right leg, from which several large screws are screwed into the flesh and into the bones. She also suffered a double fractured pelvis, and her left leg was also severely fractured. I don’t want to speak of all the open wounds on her head, body, arms, legs, and hands, nor of how much of her had to be stitched and that Gilgamesha lay in a coma for several weeks. But why am I telling you all this, for you will, indeed, know everything? Just why didn’t you tell me anything about it? It certainly would have been better for me if I could have prepared myself for it. I knew absolutely nothing about the fact that Gilgamesha had such a bad destiny for these evil events.

Ptaah:
99. But know, my friend, that your daughter in no way exhibited such a destiny, so the event happened by a stroke of fate that resulted from the unfortunate circumstance that she was, exactly at that moment, in that place where she became hit by a man with his vehicle, a man who knows and respects no responsibility for anything or any other life except his own.

100. Thus, no determination was available for this event; rather, it was a stroke of fate that could have only been seen by a certain foresight.

There appears to be some negligence on the part of the Plejarens when they time shift into events that have negative connotations towards Billy’s psyche by tragic misfortunes to his immediate family, in this case his daughter Gilgamesha. They could forecast her unfortunate car “accident”, but did not investigate deeper into the causes of such mishap is puzzling indeed since their technology should have indicated its Cause and Effect without any problem, IF they had the initiative to do so. The Plejaren and High Council speaks about avoiding activities that damage the psyche, yet in this regard remain silent I find bewildering and often wonder if a directive or protocol is more important than the well being of an individual?

Thus in this case as well as others, I see some lack of compassion on their part and often question if they are really up to task on events occurring in the SOL and DERN areas of responsibility or they should modify their approach in regards to often unique circumstances that often require inputs from those that are most affected by such forces? In other words, they would surely benefit if they “perceive” these circumstances from the point-of-view of those living and coping in these conditions that often border between the Creational and Non-Creational attributes.

They have the technology to do in depth investigations in regards to personality inferences both forward and backward which influences the current psyche, yet still adhere to Creational directives which are “derived” from a source of Ur origins that often have not been subjected to negative influences as witness repeatedly in this SOL area of responsibility.

What needs to be implemented is the “intent” of Creational aspirations, when there is a conflict of sorts, both should be separated, analyzed thoroughly to determine the Cause and Effect as well as the Not-Cause and Not-Effect and other attributes, weigh the “potential” outcomes through valid representations, then utilize the necessary reasonable HUMANE logical approach to ensure that both the positive and negative forces are given equal access for spiritual evolution without being destroyed, if one chooses to do so, then it should be self inflicted without affecting the rest that endeavor toward Creational evolution.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:57, 8 September 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Hula Hawaiian,

I think it is safe to speculate that mister Billy was talking about melancholic effect of parting on human psyche. Melancholia is the feeling about something good, something kind that will go and never return. In this context it concerns about person who is dying or will die, whether familiar or unfamiliar to the feeler (the person who feels melancholia). While he saw a person was dying or heard that a person just died the feeler knows that the personality of the dying or just died person will stop forever. Although he understands that the spirit of the dying or just died person will reincarnate, reenter material realm via an embryo, he also understands that the embryo will become another person with different personality, which might be not as kind as the previous personality. In the moment of death the parting between the feeler's personality and the just died person's personality was happening, and it triggered a melancholia in the feeler's psyche, since he knows that their current personalities will never get to know each other again anywhere.

PS: I do not have any supporting data for my explaination above. Heck, I just made it up, man.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:32, 9 September 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Semiase said "For my part, I would be very glad if through the given list of names, these old names, which are also still current with us, would find use again on Earth, for they are truly value-containing." <Line 191>

I think that she meant the mentioned names are metaphors which carry ethical values which could stimulate Earth human life forms to think about ethics in their social life.

Some explaination about ethical value could be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(personal_and_cultural)

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:05, 13 September 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Mr. Cleese I must say I agree. Given that each name carries with it a selected occupation or a tendency that would seem to be a description of what that person would have a propensity for. My only question is how do they know this person will embodie such a trait wben tbey are born?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 16:02, 13 September 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Aloha Zameen, my friend,

You have a good point, I think there are two avenues of approaches, the fortunate ones with the technological means to validate one’s potentials and match their attributes to a proper name representation through historical data and time shifted analysis along with past and current personality integration values with its appropriate links to other non-related personalities it may have influenced both positively and/or negatively.

These traits are then incorporated into whether the person is born on a certain date to a particular couple whose attributes are also considered will have bearing on which name is most appropriate for its gender be it male or female. During a forum discussion one person mentioned that some Plejaren couples have given birth to a baby that has already evolved into a half physical spiritual Being, but whether true or not has to be verified.

Then, unfortunately those without these measures have to rely on genealogical family tree and historical data to determine which name is properly chosen or that person will need to change their name to something more appropriate.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:42, 13 September 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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That's cool, but what if a name is tough to match a person, would they be the unfathomable one or the question with a answer, the endless curiosity, the prolonged endurance. I seem to match these newly adopted names to a majority of Earth humanity. Each planet should only allow the population amount to match the names so overpopulation cannot prevail. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 02:47, 14 September 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Lord Zameen,

I assume that the mentioned names are metaphors. They are not titles of professions or ranks. They were composed to stimulate Earth human life forms's brains to think about ethical values related to the names. The name "Gralon" (The Man who Makes Bowls), for example, is not intended to be used by bowl makers (bowl craftsmen). Anyone could use a name if he likes it, if he feels in tune with the name and its related ethical values, even if his profession has nothing to do with bowl production and he did not come from a bowl makers family or bowl collectors family. I assume it has nothing to do with birth, occupation, and tendency of the person who picked the name, my Lord.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:38, 14 September 2011 (BST)
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Hawaiian-thank you for your possible clarification on this matter. It was my idea that since it was not reccomended to try and access spirits in their "other world", that everyday plejarens would not use these means for the naming process. So there is your rather complicated sounding approach, which boiled down to a process, has its merits, but at the same time it begs the question: "Are you and Mr. Cleese aka, Alive, proposing a similar process?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 05:36, 14 September 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Hawaiian-thank you for your possible clarification on this matter. It was my idea that since it was not reccomended to try and access spirits in their "other world", that everyday plejarens would not use these means for the naming process. So there is your rather complicated sounding approach, which boiled down to a process, has its merits, but at the same time it begs the question: "Are you and Mr. Cleese aka, Alive, proposing a similar process?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 05:36, 14 September 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Contact Report 125

2011-09-14T04:36:25Z

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Duplicating something does not make the genuine thing loses its charm. Duplication is a flattery.

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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Silly people trying to duplicate the sounds of a beamship which is very complex, yet distinctly unique that "rotates" with other equally unique frequencies, besides Billy recorded it MORE than 35 years ago!

Such electronic equipment did not exist and still cannot produce the exact sound frequencies. Phil Langdon should be commended in his vain attempt; however the resonant frequency of a nylon fishing line is not compatible to a metal beamship model. Just the sheer length of the line will not produce the high frequencies of a guitar string, which is under severe tension, if applied to his long fishing line will certainly snap it off! He also FAILS to mention that the reason why a guitar string resonates is because the nylon string is SURROUNDED by brass wound wire!

Maybe he should put better use of that fishing line and floss his teeth more often!

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 18:33, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Kyle1212 said ... ==

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Thanks for doing this, James. I have recently been exchanging messages with Phil pointing out his flaws with his supposed debunking, which never acknowledges with both his photos and sounds.

Salome

--[[User:Kyle1212|Kyle1212]] 01:34, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Agreed on all points

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 03:56, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Kyle, you're welcome. Feel free to blog it or post an article here and link it from the [[Articles by others]] page.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 13:13, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Kyle1212 said ... ==

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I will be doing both, James. I just realized an error in my previous posting. I meant to say "which he never acknowledges. :)

--[[User:Kyle1212|Kyle1212]] 04:12, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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By trade I am a sound engineer. And I have to measure frequencies through sound system's as a general daily practice. Many of us have looked at a stereo system with an equalizer. equalizers show up on different system models with 3 eq's, some come with 5eq's and even 7. they represent frequency ranges. in the sound world its expanded a bit to 31 discreet separate frequencies. which I am willing to bet that this is what the original sound engineer were also analyzing. in the original beamship recording, you can clearly here all of the outside ambient environmental noise. this in it's self represents a credible foundation for calculating a decibel range of over 110db or more. I have looked at both of these videos in the past and came to similar conclusions. In a way it could be looked at like the crepuscular rays of semjase's ship that can only be viewed from a specific distance.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 05:24, 30 August 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Creation-energy Teaching

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== Cameron said ... ==

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I've read that our spirit can only be reborn on the planet our body dies on. What would happen to our rebirth if our planet is destroyed.

--[[User:Cameron|Cameron]] 21:01, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I am going to venture and guess that we must either wait until a planet reforms in the same vicinity or we are incarnated onto a planet within the confines of the Dern universe which best fits our spiritual development or total development as a being. Don't get any bright ideas and decide to blow up Earth now.:) I came to this possible conclusion from reading about Ashtar and his death in the Dal never to return to the Dern again.

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== RemRobinson said ... ==

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I think somewhere in the information it says that if an inhabited planet is destroyed, then the spirit-forms move to the next closest planet with life where they can continue their evolution. Any further comments from anyone else?

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemRobinson]] 19:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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RemRobison,

Yes, that is true, I think its mentioned in the Goblet of Truth. Also a friend who has close ties to the inner circle once mentioned that not only planets have these memory records, but also galaxies as well.

Incarnation is dependent on the evolutionary level of the spirit and conditions of the planet in question.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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Gabriel/a'God whom procreated with Mary/name not falsified had a son named Jmmanuel. Gabriel was a True Human being and Mary was an Earth Degenerate human being. BEAM reincarnated as a pure Earth human this final time as a True Prophet. Were there any times before as a True Prophet that he was pure in breedform?

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 05:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Fraterppehest said ... ==

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i just much excited gettin to know ,learn and practice some mystries i am interesting in . i had long want to know more and get contact the humanlikeforms living in water. we pupolarly call them "mami water". and other seeminglike beings. i hope the knowledge i will recieve shall guide me savely towards this goal. i want to see , communicate with and creat relations with.

--[[User:Fraterppehest|Fraterppehest]] 13:39, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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this is the best part of the wiki u can find out alot here about all your questions and very accurate and worth looking at i have seen and look at all of them and even save them.its well worth looking at for the new comer's

--[[User:Stevieo|Stevieo]] 00:11, 17 May 2011 (BST)
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== Kit Varela said ... ==

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Why not provide a way so that we can learn how to activate their own spiritual abilities faster. Those seeking to step up as spiritual, logical, earth guardians would be able to. They would be able to spread the teachings of creation and spiritual awareness very quickly. This would also have the effect of having thousands of truth prophets all over the world instead of just Billy.
(Or is this all possible by following the current available teachings in this section?)

--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 23:11, 9 August 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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“Normally” a prophet is selected to disseminate Creational spiritual evolution for its particular planet, the selection process follows certain guidelines to ensure that these teachings are conducive to its inhabitant’s potentials. Such “natural” creational endeavors follow the sequential progressive evolutionary time scale of which 40-60 million years produces humans that evolves into half physical/spiritual Beings and remain there for another 60-80 billion years to evolve further into the pure Arahat Athersata level which is the 1st of 7th level BEING of Petale.

However in the case of Earth, there has been far too many influences, both good and bad, competing against each other often followed by massive destruction that occurred more than once, not to mention other negative genetic disorders induced previously by other advanced ET’s that now is widespread and continues to degrade and handicap Earth humans evolutionary development to this day. To further exacerbate the situation, religions were introduced that have enormous negative factors that enslave one’s progress.

Out of the entire DERN universe, no other planet comes even close to the degree of constant interferences and negative influences than Earth and probably the main reason why Nokodemjion’s spirit form of the Arahat Athersata was altered by the Petale level in other to incarnate into a material physical human being of Billy Meier, a feat never done before because of the serious nature of wanton destruction caused by the peoples he co-created. There are still those who harbor such negative impulses of destruction both Earthly and ET’s as well.

Now the question is asked are there avenues of accelerating the spiritual evolution since all these interferences have and continue to go on as we speak? The logical answer is yes, but depends on one’s particular attributes and equational potentials and most importantly one’s discipline to master his/her 6th and 7th senses and apply the necessary inputs or energy derived from their particular connections and interconnections based on the ability to access one’s memory banks, which in turn also allows access to other connections and interconnections that will NOT be restricted by time/space if spiritual telepathy can be mastered. Such endeavors require to be harmonic in order for these much higher frequencies to resonate within each particular dimensions that will have further harmonic values as one progresses up the evolutionary realms be it from the 1st to 7th and beyond.

For example, we all know that when a physical material being dies, he or she will be separated from their 5 basic senses to also include the (6th and 7th sense which are rarely experienced during one’s life cycle), during the final stages of activity a brief 3 arc seconds which all experiences and knowledge of one’s current personality are “uploaded” into the memory banks at the rate of approximately 300,000 kilo meters or 900,000 kilo meters during a primary telepathy rate, which can also be received by anyone who is emotionally close to this person who can often “hear” or “experience” the same emotion. Spiritual telepathy is NOT restricted by these parameters and “resides” in the 7th sense.

The major question one should ask is “why should I wait until I die in order to experience such an emotion” or why should my loved one die in order to receive such intimate emotions or feeling? Therefore it is prudent for one to develop their 6th and 7th senses and approach these endeavors the same way as when one meditates with a clear sight when engaging or analyzing spiritual teachings, for the intimate answers are all within yourself and not some god or another person. A prophet is there to assist others in formulating the proper path to spiritual evolution, but the ultimate quest of getting there is up to each individual.

Even the Plejarens and High Council are learning as we speak, however spiritual evolution can also be dangerous for there are still those who follow un-creational methods and will not hesitate to do ill will to those striving to endeavor the path of Truthfulness and will try to influence your potentials for their own agendas.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 03:51, 10 August 2011 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Kit Varela, it is important to develop ones' ability to concentrate. There are several articles here about concentrations and this ability will not only help a person understand the material faster, but one will generally also become more successful in other areas of life. The people who are having problems learning the teaching presented by Billy are most likely either impaired by religions or they have to work on their attention span.

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 14:10, 10 August 2011 (BST)
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== Kit Varela said ... ==

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Thank you Hawaiian & Sanjin. I will continue the "Concentration Exercises" and putting Billy's Teaching into practice. I have already started to notice improvements in many areas of my life. I was just trying to find a speedier way to connect with my spirit. I feel as if it is the most important thing in my life, it always has but never thought I would have a chance to be truly more spiritual. This is why I was looking for a more intense, advance method being that (other than work and learning from creation) I have a lot of free time. I can't help but feel that time is running out and I need to learn as much as possible before it's is too late.

--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 23:11, 10 August 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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It would be helpful if one were aware of their present aura spectrum color frequencies so that they can improve on the positive aspects and reduce the negative colors such a violet (beliefs- religion or ego). I do admit I do not know much about the Kirlian photographic technique that shows the actual colors of one’s aura or have someone like Billy who can actually see these.

In any case scroll down to almost the end of this reference found on this website : http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Chapter_5_-_SPIRITUALISM

The majority of Earth humans have the lowest evolutionary color aura of pink, due to many negative factors described previously in addition to ones current “inherited” spiritual evolution whether it is similar to the Plejaren’s stage of 30 million plus years because of reincarnation here on Earth, or from other ET’s that also died here or being of the aboriginals or hybrids. Each has its own origins and based on their previous personalities that have given each spirit form its own experiences and knowledge will determine what particular evolutionary condition the spirit has matured or stagnated to. Do not feel discouraged if of aboriginal nature because even Billy acknowledged that many of their practices are aligned with creational values when compared to “modern man” that abuse the environment for greed and profit.

It is this spiritual reference that will determine how fast one processes the inputs being “presented” in logical, balanced form between the material Conscious and Subconscious. True, spirits of lower evolution will have a much more difficult time than those of higher evolution, but the key is in the degree of discipline of the Conscious utilizing its access to the 6th and 7th senses. There is a difference of maturity potentials between a more developed spirit form than from one that is less, but because of interferences that have prevented the “natural evolutionary events, other factors have “emerged” or about to “emerge” into this Equational Potential formulation that is not just material in nature, but may also involve much higher realms as well.

However there is another concept in theory which “resides” in much higher frequency levels where the High Council and Arahat Athersata level have control of, that is the power to determine whether a spirit can reincarnate or not in RESPECT of achieving the proper material environment for other spirits to evolve naturally without interference. Such an event has happened during Nokodemjion’s material transformation when he came from the Arahat Athersata level into the DERN universe again as a material human being but with a spirit of more than 86 billion years of evolution to bring balance and harmony which unfortunately degenerated again soon after he passed on into the reincarnation stages again,

One such example that fits this “theory” is the fact that the same spirit form even after almost two thousand years of reincarnation of numerous personalities still attempts to do evil to not just one prophet of Jmmanuel but also recently to Billy himself. True, one must learn by their mistakes, but to “allow” such an event to occur at this magnitude that has negative consequences not just for these two prophets, but also millions of other humans who depend on their teachings must weigh heavy on those who could have prevented such from happening. We are not responsible for this, but should become aware of because both the internal and external environments are critical for proper spiritual evolutionary growth.

Now keep this in mind because there are also other factors that “may” reside in this realm of existence currently beyond our control, but certainly not beyond those who have the means of resolving such matters in their own particular evolutionary nature

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:05, 11 August 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Hawaiian- Well said. You've left me with less to say and more to ponder and contemplate. However, I still dont see the plejaren coming to help in any way differently than the fashion in which they've been helping thus far. Your theories make good sense, are bold, but sometimes I think you are outlining the grounds for their impending "helping hand". Please make no mistake, for I can understand your points and many of your thoughts "stick". I'm involved in a German study group now. Hopefully I can join your spirited, intellectual discussions with a better understanding. Salome!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 04:07, 12 August 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Afterlife

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I have a question! The pirit has two choice, find a new body or live in finematter world for a while. So how long does have to live in finematter world?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 09:13, 21 May 2011 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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a = ( m * 1.5 ) / p

where

* a is afterlife duration in years
* m is previous material life duration in years
* p is the overpopulation factor (this is unknown to me but exceeds a value of 1 if the population of Earth is >529,000,000)

So if I lived for 100 years in this life and the population wasn't 8,000,000,000 but was 529,000,000 then I could have been in the next afterlife for 150 years. But in reality, the population is 8,000,000,000 so I will/may be in the afterlife for much less than 150 years. It's somewhere between 1 and 149 years. If a FIGU member reads this please provide more information.

Don't take this as accurate. It isn't accurate, and could even be significantly wrong.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 10:24, 21 May 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Do not worry I have secretly developed a flash drive that lasts 1 billion years and have hidden it on every planet in all universes thus I shall remember all my favorite websites and hobbies. :)

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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Can I chose who I want reincarnate to? Can chose a body? How can I remeber my past life?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 07:32, 29 May 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Answer my questions. Can i chose which next body I want? Also, what would happen if I were to die in a polace with no planets with life nearby? Say the void between galaxys. If I was in a en,type black space bteween andromada and milky way galaxy and die there will I never be able to have a body ever? What if earth were to blood up now with no escape what will happen to all the souls of earth?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 05:35, 6 July 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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A material personality cannot chose which body it will incarnate in, however it does have some conscious bearing or force that may influence one's spirit into which body (male vs. female) it chooses to incarnate in. This is based on "normal" creational evolution process; there are of course exceptions to the rule in cases of suicide or murder where the spiritual evolution for that particular personality has been prematurely ended.

In such cases, the spirit will need to continue where it left off in a suitable body to complete its evolution per personality attributes. Thus it actually causes evolutionary stagnation.

Besides this abnormal process, what body the spirit “chooses” depends on its positive/negative equilibrium balance in regards to the necessary required knowledge and experiences it needs for further evolution, which is also influenced by the quality of its past accumulated knowledge and experiences of its previous personalities stored in the memory banks of that particular planet it resides on. Thus, if one engages in noble humane causes that are needed for evolutionary development and prematurely expires for some reason, she or he will incarnate in a suitable physical body to continue the process.

Suitable physical bodies of equal “potential” evolutionary attributes may not be available on Earth and may incarnate on the next closest planet or passing ship if within the 21-day embryonic stages of the fetus. However bear in mind (reference [[Contact Report 039]]) that there has been a number of established ET colonies on Earth and quite a number has incarnated with higher potentials than others.

So the answer is complicated and based on each individual’s “Equational Potential formulation(s). One’s origins, whether Lyrian, Vegan, Yellow, Brown, White, Red, Sirian, Earthly or a combination of sorts will also have some bearing on the incarnation process.

The primary concern one should have is how to access your memory bank and utilize “your” pass personality knowledge and experiences in order to interface with these along with other attributes that one’s current personality is capable of doing, which requires incorporation beyond the 5 basic senses and into the realms of the 6th and 7th senses, including both primary telepathy and spiritual telepathy. It is this harmonic frequency that “enables” one to surpass the limitations of light speed and link up to higher forms of Beings of similar frequencies or for a better word, higher evolutionary realms of existence.

Therefore, the key to understanding this process is all “ingrained” in one’s Conscious and Subconscious and that both must be in harmony for maximum evolutionary development. This is only a small snapshot of the mechanisms that abound in this particular subject, much more can be found in the OM and other materials available by BEAM and the 49 inner core members of the SSSC.

There are no such thing as souls, it is a corruption of religious dogmas to enslave one’s evolution, created by “gods” that are nothing but human parasites existing at the expense of others. There are only spirits and no “souls” and no “god” to determine your future, it is just your personality, spirit and knowledge/experiences through your free will to decide whether to evolve or not.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 08:27, 6 July 2011 (BST)
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== RemR said ... ==

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TheUFOGuy,

Say you were to die in outer space, in between galaxies — let's say EXACTLY half way in between the Andromeda Galaxy and the Milky Way Galaxy — but at the exact millisecond you died, you were one millimeter closer to Andromeda. Then your spirit-form would drift to the closest human-life-sustaining planet in the Andromeda Galaxy — a planet best suited for you to continue the evolution of your spirit-form through more material lifetimes, whichever planet that might be.

If the earth were to explode, all of the spirit-forms — human as well as flora and fauna — would move through space to the next closest higher-life-sustaining planet where they could continue their evolution, like the last scenario I mentioned.

btw Hawaiian,

I feel like the "soul" is an outdated term for "psyche" and has nothing to do with the immortal spirit, which is capable of evolution, if I recall correctly from the material.

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Actually, in [[Contact Report 213]], Billy inquires with Quetzal on this issue:

'''Billy:'''

Thanks for your information. Then something else: the creative spirit form of the person is wrongly designated as the soul, but at the same time, the value of the psyche embodies this according to today’s better understanding and sense. Now, the spirit form – respectively what the person designates as the soul, which is capable of wandering according to Christian and other religious faiths, even the so-called soul-wandering – is denied, especially by medical science and by many other would-be knowledge directions, as well as its ability to be reincarnated. How long will it be until the incorrigible ones acknowledge the fact, as it is even set forth by the spiritual teaching, that the spirit form actually exists and is arranged into reincarnations?

'''Quetzal:'''

23. With great certainty, the twentieth century will bring no scientific insight relating to this.

24. However, it will look different after the turn of the millennium, as a look into the future of a related form has proven."'
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Also see [[FIGU - related terms]], [[Fluidal Energy]] and [[Contact Report 200]].

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 08:27, 6 July 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I doubt many people from our planet would fit in with the intelligence and logically designed planets of some areas of the universe. I guess if you don't fit in with there evolution then you are jettisoned back from where you came a long ways off. :) Not intelligent enough yet or possessing enough human attributes consistently.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:52, 7 July 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Can my soul choses which body to reincarnanted to?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 22:49, 12 July 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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If you save an entire world I think that choosing your body is a good reward for epic calculation capabilities. j/k I think it's random but I could be wrong.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:30, 13 July 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Answer my qeustion if my soul can shoe a body?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 07:06, 13 July 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Answer my qeustion if my soul can shoe a body?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 07:06, 13 July 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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^ I mean answer my question if my soul can chose a body.

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 07:07, 13 July 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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UFOguy, many things depend on what evolutionary level you are at when you die. Aftering spending time in the ether, your spirit can incarnate into a body which has the same vibrational frequency. Also the incarnation will happen within a 1,0000 km radius. So your spirit being attracted to a family of similar vibration is not the same as your spirit making a conscious effort to choose a family.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 16:52, 13 July 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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So I have no choice who I reincarnate too? The new body is chosen for me? How cruel. More reason Why I want to live in my currant body. I hope to get a MALE body of a pure bred siran lineage and no t a mix siran or lyran vega. I hate the lyra vega lineage. They are the deisease and evils of the universe.

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 04:11, 15 July 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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So I have no choice who I reincarnate too? The new body is chosen for me? How cruel. More reason Why I want to live in my currant body. I hope to get a MALE body of a pure bred siran lineage and no t a mix siran or lyran vega. I hate the lyra vega lineage. They are the deisease and evils of the universe.

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 04:11, 15 July 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I don't know if it's wise to be able to choose exactly who you want to be. Let's say everyone wanted to be Elvis for instance imagine 8 billion Elvis clones on Earth, not a pretty site I would say. :) I think we would be under constant attack due to lack of creative freedom and ability.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 06:16, 15 July 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Thats not what I mean. When I mean chose which body , My soul should chose which body in the womb so I cold be born in. I canb;t choose evils now cause he is dead and noone can chose to be his clone unless they clone him. So when I mean choise I mean chose.

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 07:13, 15 July 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I see where you went there UFOguy Evils and Elvis are you a codebreaker 007 Sherlock Holmes. :) Ah ha so you desire to become a detective. Imagine everyone wanting to have the Columbo look "BODY" same result as my previous post.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 16:05, 15 July 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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I might arm myslfe aginst some Sirians with no mercy, they betray either mix with lyra vega lineage or allied with them. There should not be conisder sirius but lyra vega and must be killed. I will arm my slfe against lyra vega lineage. It is the their bodies and DNA gentics Iwant eleininate. Only pure bred sirius lineage shall exists. The sirius sline are creation it self. As the universe exist becuase they created it. However evil exist and it creats evils like lyra vega lineage. Thus they will have to be destroyed. Only sirius line shall exist. Both dern and Dal rightlyfull belong to the siurius linegae and every other races must be wiped out.

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 06:51, 16 July 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Ufoguy, since the races have intermingled over time and there are now 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 races in the universe (as of 1990), how are you going to test all of them with DNA sampling? Do you have any idea what DNA markers you will be looking for? You have pretty wild ideas with no basis in reality.
Btw keep reading contact report 251 over and over again until you understand it. No one can make you understand, you have to do that all by yourself.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 21:50, 20 July 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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James it is time for this person to be banished from this site until the next incarnation. This has to stop or else more clowns like this one will soon join. Please tell ufoguy that he must go.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 00:51, 21 July 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Jschwjsch

2011-07-19T20:07:12Z

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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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So tell other then planet earth. What are the other two planets ptaah is trying to enforce spirtual teachings? Wwhats tary syyem and waht is the name of the those two planet.

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 05:48, 16 May 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi UFOGuy, that would be Erra and Alatides. Erra is the Plejarens home planet but not sure about Alatides.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:37, 16 May 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Where have you heard this Sheila?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 05:46, 18 May 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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"And Still They Fly" by Guido Moosbrugger.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 02:39, 20 May 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Do the sirian lineage use this title?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 03:09, 29 May 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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I'm not sure UFOGuy. But please know (not sure which contact report this was from) that the next time we meet the sirians, they will have joined the races who have already joined with the high council. So there should be nothing to fear from them.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:57, 31 May 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Sheila, i never feared the sirian lineage. Not even in the distant past and I don't hate them. I will not arm myself against sirian lineage. The lyrian/vegan,plejarens on the other hand is different.

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 19:43, 5 June 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Why would you arm yourself agains the Lyrans, Vegans and Plejaren? They've done nothing to you in your current life except save our butts on more than one occasion.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 23:12, 5 June 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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I want to make contact with only sirian lineage. Whether they are benefactors, beviolent or malviolent! Lyran lineage have absalutly no right to interfere. This is a sirian buisness!

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 04:37, 7 June 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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If you don't know how to get a hold of the sirians and they aren't making contact with you already, what makes you so sure they even want to meet you?

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 16:28, 7 June 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Sheila, how did we get off track? Did in my first question here is if the sirian lineage have a similar title to JHWH? You didn't answer my question. I never consider helping the lyran or consider the my race. I never will consider them as allies.

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 08:05, 8 June 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I have figured out an astrocosmic solution to Earth's weird problem. Huddle up Team Truth.:) Since they have failed every time consistently to listen to any of the truthful answers from 7 prophets I suggest instead of cheating we take it even further and pass the test for them. We will have to choose the fairest of them all and that singular person shall represent all of Earth and it's weirdness.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 12:01, 8 June 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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I am only interested as a I said in my own way od spiriatual advancements. I do not agree ith the duouble stantdard contradicting plieadians or vegas, or any lyrian lineage.

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 20:05, 8 June 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Do the sirius linegae use this title?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 20:56, 16 July 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Hey UFOguy, you have NO idea what you are blabbing about! You are just making up stupid S!*t ! You spew thw most ignorant hte ever! How would you ever know what your lineage is? You have no clue! Nothing!....ever! Shut up! Stop posting this silliness and do some reading!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:49, 16 July 2011 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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I know my own lineage and its the sirius lineage. Why can't I be the sirius lineage? Huh? Explain?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 06:18, 17 July 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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You can be whatever you want as long as you are logical, sensible, and not destructive which are you current to do list of consciosness developmen alirght my friend UFOGuy. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 07:34, 17 July 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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A word of advice to those that seek the Truth, your life cycle is like a journey on your own "canoe", you do the paddling to determine your destination, however because of your compassion for others, some spend too much time on others who have not or will not discipline themselves to do their own paddling or make the effort to learn how to swim.

Therefore, if it becomes too burdensome carrying another person's baggage, it becomes extra ballast in your own canoe and restricts your development as well, then it is best to toss out this "baggage or ballast". That person should learn who to swim or paddle their own canoe and not tie you down from your evolution. He or she will have another chance to continue, maybe not in this life cycle but the next incarnation. That is how it works, you are either part of the solution or part of the problem, but don't be a problem for others.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 19:42, 18 July 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Hawaiian-hello, im sure your last post is in regards to my previous post to ufoguy. As i am well aware of your suggestions and advice, i thank you but do not apologize because i meant what i said. He is learning about the information in a skewed way and simultaneously damming Billy and everyone else whom he thinks to be this or that. If he had read further, he would find that those people and theyre world and even theyre galaxy have dissolved in the cosmos many many millions of years ago and in no way share an existence with us nor are they reincarnating here. He's constantly posting hate. Enuff Znuff I say!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 21:07, 19 July 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Jschwjsch

2011-07-16T22:49:50Z

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2011-06-16T20:39:05Z

Zameen: New comment by Zameen: What a great video! this explains so much, so succinctly in 10 min. that its the best Ive seen for showing people with short attention spans!! I'm going to be showing this to ever...

What a great video! this explains so much, so succinctly in 10 min. that its the best Ive seen for showing people with short attention spans!! I'm going to be showing this to everyone that is interested in this material! Thanks for making such a great video! Salome!!!

Talk:What is really going to happen in the year 2012?

2011-06-01T20:46:40Z

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== robert said ... ==

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well i am hope this not giong to happening on years of 12-21-21 well never giong to happening at all . that also false i am hope we will see sochi 2014 and barzil summer 2016 games this is not giong to happening

--robert 22:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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== john said ... ==

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It is unfortunate that many well meaning people do not realize how there negativity are affecting the world as they are adding to the problem not solving it by allowing fear to run there lives and they try to prove there feelings by trying to convince there friends of this as truth. We have alot to learn!!

--john 15:35, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
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== zameen said ... ==

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i find it more possible of the mock space invasion than anything else.

--zameen 20:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
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== Psonnenh said ... ==

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I understand pleiadians can't disclosure the future, in order to no afect our living experience in earth,. But why only expose global warming (details), making us feel bad (and we should), but if the "may" events, (Solar waves, polar shifting, and black colousal efects) is not in our hands to avoid their destruction power. I mean , anyway big life loses will happen with or without global warming.

--[[User:Psonnenh|Psonnenh]] 09:14, 1 May 2010 (BST)
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== North Shore Hawaii said ... ==

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Ok, if the pleiadians are definitely in contact with our government and with high-ranking officials, why not discuss between themselves all of this important information? Why not get the people involved that can actually create a change immediately, rather than a bunch of people on here? If ETs are seriously communicating with our government, I am positive they are relaying this information to our gov. And if they are, our gov. is planning as we speak on how to break it to us, and how to plan for this event. If this is all true (it sounds true), then we (who are reading on here) are more aware than most others. Spread the word, and try to evoke some environmental change in your area. We can't save the world in 2 years, but I can feel better about a catastrophe if I wasn't blatantly wasting energy, resources, and product all along the way. Good luck to you all. I sure hope the pleiadians that are thousands of years more advanced than we are, are intelligent enough to help us avoid the destruction of our planet (or OUR planet, since they seem to be sharing it with us). It would be quite silly for them to say, "This is going to happen in 2 years... its going to be pretty ugly... don't tell the simple Earthlings any more!" And them just die along with us when the world goes to hell in 2012 because of solar flares and the ozone getting messed up. I mean seriously... What is the point in contacting humans and collaborating with our government, if you aren't going to HELP... you're just going to forecast... I sure hope it works out. I wouldn't mind living alongside a new race, an intelligent and nurturing race that delights in our learning and evolving. That would make me feel like I was actually born for something!

--North Shore Hawaii 12:49, 6 May 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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north shore Hawaii: the entire paragraph you wrote contains misdirected and has nothing to do with the reality that we are faced with. the plejaran are not here(they left this planet in 95' after their mission was completed. they do however still see billy as per the contacts etc. but in regards to the apocalyptic and sad events that you are hinting towards, you should try to look more closely to the info provided here. it is sure to help you reach a less negative understanding and perhaps some insights to what we must do as humans. as far as living side by side with another race, not going to happen. our vibrations are so different that it equates to them living in sickness if they were to reside here with us. why would they do that when they have a home world that has enjoyed 50,000+ yrs. of spiritual and technological symmetry?

--Zameen 15:38, 6 May 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I hope we still get to see one more xmas in 2012. Although according from what I've read Emmanuel's B-day is in February. My conclusion 2 Xmas's per year. :)Thanks Pleiadians.

--Mark 00:14, 7 May 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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As Mark quoted, "enjoy your next two Xmas" before 2010, but most importantly as Zameen mentioned, learn as much as you can from this site and others. Because the intensity of the expected solar flaring may be so great, that internet and other forms of communications maybe disrupted so much, one may not be able to log into their computers anymore until the crisis passes!

Probably the most reliable source of communications under these conditions will be the tried and proven analog HF/UHF radio.

But, then again, an opportunist could take advantage of these dire circumstances and "propose" a compromise between the degenerative Earth governments and a more advanced civilization that has the technology to protect the Earth. Get rid of religions, nuclear weapons, and other evils, follow Billy's teachings and you'll be covered, deviate from this and we'll remove the technology! Seems like mankind only becomes reasonably logical, is when he faces a terrible dilemma, a rather barbaric method of thinking and learning?

But this will never happen, since "free will" is not the primary concern at the moment or should it be?

--Hawaiian 01:50, 7 May 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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That would be nice Hawaiian, but I'm sure Earth has been pampered enough already. I'm sure forces beyond our understanding and capabilities has helped us an uncountable amount of times. I don't know how many bailout plans the universe can hand out unless man of earth can grow and mature. I do see a change in man but still the battle continues within. If we just think with the suggested "Cause and Effect" before making decisions then all would be much better now.

--Mark 20:40, 7 May 2010 (BST)
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== North Shore Hawaii said ... ==

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Ok, I feel like you all believe what is on this site and elsewhere, and all agree that the world is going to drastically change after 12-21-12. If everyone knows this to be true, what are we doing about it? We are not going to reverse, or even stop, global warming in 2.5 years, so what's the next solution? What can average people like myself do to prepare for this? Are the die-hard believers gathering together and all relocating somewhere and pooling their resources together, and also living the way Billy Meier and the Plejaren have said we should? Starting a society that does as we were all told by the Plejaren is probably the best idea, right? Then as more people realize the err of their ways, they might start opening their minds and even join said society - which is ultimately what needs to happen for mankind to redeem himself... we all need to live the way we are supposed to before we can evolve and even become a working part of the universe(s). I am still working my way through this site - it is huge - but I would like some insight on some of these questions. Thanks everyone!

--North Shore Hawaii 21:37, 17 May 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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North Shore Hawaii - The least you can do is to try and live according to the laws and recommendations of Creation. Those around you will see this in you and will likewise start to turn towards living a life of being truly human. And then it becomes a chain reaction of positive changes which will contribute to the transformation of society into that better society envisaged by the Plejaren and Billy. We will have to endure some severe repercussions from nature in the near future and other problems caused by the massive overpopulation now and later but the long term future holds great things in store for us, which you and I will experience (read contact 251 for example). For 2012 I plan to store as much non-perishable food and other supplies in my rented accommodation as possible. There is not much else we can do. Don't worry about dying, you'll live through it (i.e. you'll reincarnate).

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:59, 18 May 2010 (BST)
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== North Shore Hawaii said ... ==

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Ok, so we are supposed to gather food and water, sit in our homes, and wait to reincarnate? Ok, so if we are all going to die in 2012 and reincarnate some 300 years later, what's the point of educating people on how to live, if we're all dying in 2 years anyway??? What's the point in changing our lifestyle and way of thinking, if it's only going to end in 2 years? I guess I'm just not grasping the whole reasoning behind all this... I could understand trying to educate people because we have a chance in saving ourselves, or because we all have centuries to reform our thought processes...But it all just seems pretty... sewed shut. I dunno.

--North Shore Hawaii 09:39, 8 June 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Dear North Shore Hawai,

The world will not end in 2012 and we will not all die in 2012 ! :) Also Billy repeatedly says it. Our planet will end in a few million years when our sun will die. - By the way, one can die anytime, before 2012, 2012, or after 2012 :-/.......

Cosmic influences are present all the time and influence our climat, plate tectonics ect...... right at the moment, only that we have not the time or not the interest in seeing the signs that already happen today in 2010 or that happened already before.

Me for my part i will maybe have only some candles and some food and water for one or three months, nothing more, in the case that the electricity will fail.

Honestly: I am more concerned after 2012 and about the overpopulation. Earth humans (we) will be the ones that will decide if we want to destroy the planet or not....

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 11:14, 8 June 2010 (BST)
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NASA just confirmed the enormous solar storm which is threatening Earth:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7819201/Nasa-warns-solar-flares-from-huge-space-storm-will-cause-devastation.html

--sanjin 22:21, 19 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Thank you Nasa. I think the governments should simulate possible loss of many electronic devices and devise a plan to keep the most necessary and vital to day to day needs that people will struggle without such as the supermarkets having stocks of food and backup generators or buying foods that last a long time without refrigeration. There will probably be an emergency broadcast which should set people's minds at ease filled with simple tips to maintain daily life functions. I hope people keep there composure and refrain from riots or theft. Double the defenses.

--Mark 02:30, 20 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I have a great idea. I remember reading about the Plejaren ships capability to capture and deflect energy that it receives THUS I have come up with the invite the entire fleet to block off the sun at the exact date and time of solar storm occurance deflecting right back THUS saving us a whole lot of drama. :) How many ships do the Plejaren have, you think they can cover that big sun and cause an eclipse. j/k

--Mark 02:43, 20 June 2010 (BST)
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== Quassy said ... ==

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I just want to know why the pleiadians are saying nothing about the death of Tutankamon(king pharaoh of Egypt).
What did really cause the death of Tutankamon ??..

--Quassy 19:21, 21 June 2010 (BST)
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== DRN said ... ==

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2 Direct quotes from billy 1. "Good; what you did explain to me regarding the year 2012, I don’t want to treat as a prophecy or prediction, but as a possibility and a minor probability. I want to begin with a question that was posed to me." 2. "The Earth will fall victim to a very strong bombardment of hard radiation, which may have a very negative effect on the Earth’s ozone layer." My question, Why is in the second does it say "will" and not "may?"

--DRN 19:01, 11 July 2010 (BST)
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== DRN said ... ==

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2 Direct quotes from billy 1. "Good; what you did explain to me regarding the year 2012, I don’t want to treat as a prophecy or prediction, but as a possibility and a minor probability. I want to begin with a question that was posed to me." 2. "The Earth will fall victim to a very strong bombardment of hard radiation, which may have a very negative effect on the Earth’s ozone layer." My question, Why is in the second does it say "will" and not "may?"

--DRN 19:14, 11 July 2010 (BST)
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== findinmy way said ... ==

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billy was asking if u can put your book out in english also because i wolud love to read them i can't read german

--findinmy way 09:07, 30 July 2010 (BST)
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== Janine said ... ==

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The bottom line is...quiet your mind, open your heart, get ready for impending natural disasters. Pray for GRACE.

--Janine 18:27, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Janine
I think praying for something might not get the job done, my mother is doing the same at the church but if disaster comes best to prepare than waste time praying to all the gods and statues and hope they miraculously come to life and save our hides. My mother is a tough nut to crack but I will ease her in slowly into the teachings of Creation.

--Mark 20:51, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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== Diggy said ... ==

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Excellent, found a mistake on the english side near the end though, on the line "And the that more people are directing themselves onto something certain with their forces of thought, onto something that could or should turn out" I think the second and third words should be switched. Have a good day and thank you for all your efforts in sharing this information.

--[[User:Diggy|Diggy]] 22:21, 6 September 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Thanks Diggy

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 20:41, 7 September 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Early on I posted a comment about a mock space invasion that I was pretty sure I had read about in a contact report. But I came across some videos on you tube about something called "project bluebeam". Basically it describes how the governments of the world will plan a hologram-based ufo invasion that will bring a new religion to earth by showing holograms in the sky of all the different gods somehow melding into each other and ultimately forming one god. simultaneously, they will have the ability to pump audio into our minds supporting this event and even beaming in holographs of beasts of some kind in our homes. I just cant see how this will change some peoples minds. certain sects are so hard lined about what they believe that I dont see how this could even bother them. they also have youtube videos that are purportedly of some of the holograms in question. one is a giant cross in the daytime(doesnt look that convincing to me)this is all supposed to happen some time around 2012. if i took a swing at a monster in my house and the baseball bat goes right through it, and the monster doesnt hurt me, then it'd just be over right there right? i pose that question like that in reference to the "believability" of all this. seems like more silly conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo, but I just wanted to see if anyone here has heard of, or seen this on youtube. Thanks SALOME!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 22:00, 7 September 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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According to [[contact report 150]] an asteroid/meteorite will threaten the Earth possibly in 2014:

''9792.5 B.C. – 575.5 orbital period years [of the Destroyer planet]''

''Special Event: Destroyer rips 7 large asteroids from the Asteroid Belt casting them into various dangerous orbits and which, in coming times, will endanger the earth. One of them probably in (the year) 2014.''

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 16:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Tyler said ... ==

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I would really like to know the exact location and exact dates of where the catastrophies occur. Obviously through what I have read here on this site specifically and what I have read of Billy's contact reports on other sites and through what I have learned in the sciences field, I can make educated guesses... I'm not trying to add to the thought provoking fulfilment of prophesy. But as I have read, We have passed the threshold anyway so now the events are inevitable. Would it be possible for Billy to contact me personally through e-mail or publicly on this site to fill me in on more information. I completely believe everything he has said in his contact reports and cannot stop reading and investigating everything I have read on this site. I am not a skeptic, just passionately interested in his mission and all the knowledge and wisdom he openly shares.

--[[User:Tyler|Tyler]] 21:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Tyler, Billy will not tell anyone the exact dates as far as I know. It is forbidden to him for our benefit, not his.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 22:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Salome Tyler,

Some occurences what concerns the climate and man made induced "natural catastrophes" have become inevitable, but not the possibility to still weaken them if we now act accordingly to the Plejaren's and Billy's warnings......
To tell dates, has more negative effects then good ones..... F.Ex: If he would tell us the date when a big mud slide would happen, we would not learn anything as we would just make the persons leave their houses at that date and evacuate them. The mud slide would happen and everyone would continue living like before. This does not happen if no dates are made public..... then one constantly thinks on how preventing the occurence...... in advance :). This has not only the good effect that one stops only thinking for oneself, but for many others too as one does not know when and where.......... the occurence will happen.

Because all the warnings and prophecies did not bear fruit with earth humans, the Plejaren and Billy also, stopped to calculate prophecies...... Details are therefore not available anymore of the things going to happen (Where and when).......

Salome

Nicolas

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 10:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Gloria curran said ... ==

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to me u sound like a hateful atheist w/too much time on his hands. u should live where there r other human beings. u may have actual sightings n u r adding BS about the messages they left for u. come on now get real. Ignorant people that had no beliefs r gonna fall into this new version of jones town.

--[[User:Gloria curran|Gloria curran]] 21:13, 28 March 2011 (BST)
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== Allen Moffat said ... ==

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Hi it is interesting to read this, my thoughts on 2012 is a new awakening in global consciousness for the coming of the new age of Aquarius and the changing galactic winter solstice. As a result of this change in age, we are also blessed, I believe, to be part of something very special in our generation when we pass though the photon belt of our central star of our galaxy which happens every 26,000 years. A change in DNA and a change in consciousness. However, I do believe that the Illuminati are planning a false flag attack on mankind to stop this process from taking place. Through my research I have come to the conclusion that this comet ELENIN that NASA conveniently released its orbital path will be the false flag catastrophe resembling a pole shift due to the so called "large celestial body" passing by Earth. How will they accomplish this you ask? HAARP. I have researched the Tesla technology and am actively progressing towards free energy for everyone, however, one of Teslas inventions was HAARP which the Illuminati now control and are planning to sink Japan into the ocean and loosen the tectonic plates causing a disaster on a global scale the likes of which we have not seen before in this incarnation. They have built underground cities all over the world for the rich elite to survive while the rest of us perish and are not able to experience the blue and white lights from our photon belt and morphing of our DNA to a 12 strand helix the way we were always supposed to function before the greys and reptoids changed our DNA since the time of Atlantis when we told them to go get F*#%^D!. The dates in question are to start in Sep 11th, 22nd, Oct 27th and Nov 22nd. My question to you is that knowing what HAARP can do and has done in relation to all of these earthquakes taking place today which is fact and can be verified by the active operation of HAARP and the Aurora lights which have appeared right before every major earthquake thus far, hence the alignment dates of ELENIN and these major earthquakes are the same, throwing people off the scent of what this weapon can do and is being used for now, which is mass genocide of 6.5 billion people. Are our galactic friends going to help us disarm this monstrous weapon of insurmountable destruction and allow this alignment to take its course for everyone on this planet, or is it up to mankind to wake up in time to stop this ourselves? I was a panic merchant when I first heard about 2012 and was petrified that myself and my whole family will die, however my quest for truth has obviously led me here and I believe that love and wisdom is truth and there is no death for our souls are immortal. I'm sorry however I don't believe in people having to stop having children for population control, because it is that unconditional love for a child which feeds the soul and has the ability to change a persons consciousness forever. I love my daughter and I wish to have another child. There is technology that exists in the universe and here on earth which has been kept from us by big oil and big energy run secret society governments for 100 years to put an end to starvation and our dependence on money, however the problem is too large now and whilst they pollute the earth with their toxins and poison mankind with their dangerous chemicals, it may be too late as Billy said to do anything about it. We need the hand of god to intervene which I believe and hope will happen so that everyone on this earth only experiences truth and love. Anyway that was quite long however quite relevant with the 2012 topic. Peace and wisdom too you.

--[[User:Allen Moffat|Allen Moffat]] 10:36, 1 June 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Alan. before you add any more opinions/ information to THIS information, you should first go through and read A lot more of THIS information because THAT information is in complete and total contrast with THIS information. I once subscribed to THAT information once myself, and after I did my due diligence(more of an obsession, but perhaps more on that later)on THIS information, I realized that THAT information is the DISINFORMATION!!!Read on sir and be rest assured that once you get it. you will echoe this statement to the next Alan Moffat or next Shawn Bayne for that matter!! SALOME!!!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 21:46, 1 June 2011 (BST)
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2011-05-23T22:39:57Z

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I think I'm gonna be sick.....sick with hopelessness for our stupid ways, sick of knowing what everyone knows SHOULD be done, but is never done. Sick of people who can suppress the knowledge of, and solution to, impending disasters and harmful and destructive behavior towards life, and sick of being helpless. But I couldn't tell you what I could ever do about it. I mean, I cant even keep my phone on half the time and I celebrate when I'm current on bills!!

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2011-05-19T20:39:48Z

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== pantelo said ... ==

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then you woke up?

--pantelo 13:39, 24 June 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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12.Soon the knowledgeable people will be consigned to misery and will be killed. 13.They will be hated on account of the truth of the teachings and the wisdom. 14.Various religious cults will rise up against one another, and much blood will flow.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 06:18, 29 June 2010 (BST)
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== zameen said ... ==

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Bigfoot: where did those lines come from?

--zameen 14:23, 29 June 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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Those lines came from this website Future of Mankind.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 17:19, 29 June 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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Also take into mind, that only if these prophesies come true then also world war three will come and the Earth will not be habitable so nobody wins just untold misery for whoever survives.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 17:31, 29 June 2010 (BST)
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== zameen said ... ==

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My apologies. I meant more specifically. I know I have read it before. Salome

--zameen 18:04, 29 June 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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Click on newest pages and then click on Talmud of Jmmanuel Prophesy.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 18:18, 29 June 2010 (BST)
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== Stephaniewbrooker said ... ==

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On yahoo today, space.com has posted that they have found evidence of the fact that there are rogue planets that just float throughout the universe without an associated sun! Backing up what Billy and Quetzal are discussing at the end of this contact 224! Awesome!

--[[User:Stephaniewbrooker|Stephaniewbrooker]] 15:29, 19 May 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Remember that irresponsible ET's that have just mastered beyond light speed acceleration often to not practice sound judgements and re-enter material space too close to planets and comets, thus throwing them out of orbit as missiles in space.

Also like in the Destroyer planet, a rogue dark star object can be initiated by ET's who destroy their worlds, thus throwing objects out of orbit to become dangerous wandering missiles of destruction.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 18:28, 19 May 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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"Business opportunity planet seeker for more religion and politics spreading." No thanks run the loop tape of the phony universe on there sats ASAP. :) j/k

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:38, 19 May 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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bigfoot what contact report is this info from? lines 12 and 13 here?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 21:39, 19 May 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Contact Report 512

2011-05-07T20:52:49Z

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== Markvd said ... ==

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Good luck evil doers trying to conquer the entire universe. You would need an infinite life span that can remember past foolishness. I can't wait to gather food recipes across the the vastness of space. The food recipe hunter is coming to a planet near you. :) No raw stuff please.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 14:19, 5 May 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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I think Pleiarens's number of civilizations based on the location of a civilization, not on the race, language, common ancestry, or government. So if several thousand Libyan psychos from Terra make a colony in Mars, Pleiarens would say that there are two civilizations in this Solar system, although those psychos in Mars keep on using Arabic, singing Libyan national anthem, and worshipping Qadafi as their God.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 15:11, 5 May 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Alive that is hardly true and silly. You sir are sill like John Cleese of Monty Python.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 22:48, 5 May 2011 (BST)
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== Les Gabriel said ... ==

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What constitutes a High or low civilization, is it technology or spirituality ?

--[[User:Les Gabriel|Les Gabriel]] 23:42, 5 May 2011 (BST)
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== Cat said ... ==

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Is this internet spying ONLY when the computer is in use? If it's turned off but still plugged in or the battery has some life in it, it's able to pick up what's being said in your home? Scary thought. Talk about invasion of privacy. We've discussed this in our family and are going to remove all electronic media from our home for 2 weeks and play board games, do more family stuff and see how much better we feel for it. I'm sure the radiation being emitted is doing us harm as well as all the other nonsense going on with the secret service spies grrrrrr!!!

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 05:12, 6 May 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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What is this internet spying you speak of they can barely understand themselves how will they understand anything else. Translate using low IQ for maximum 007 spy capabilities. I doubt they have many valedictorians working for our current security around the world. They usually hire the follow the leader types. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:39, 6 May 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Zameen (may I call you "Lord Zameen"?),

Thank you for your flattery. Your words were not only from correctness, but also from sharpness and accuracy. John Cleese is one of my favorite comedians and for some people he is more famous than Jesus Christ (I do not know why).

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 13:32, 6 May 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Alive, please never refer to me as lord. that is icky. Zameen is taken from a creole word that means "my friend" and I will be nothing more or less than yours my friend

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:46, 6 May 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Zameen,

I just want to know, what is the name of the language which the word "zameen" came from? Thank you for your information, my Lord.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 08:29, 7 May 2011 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11124/1143895-84-0.stm?cmpid=nationworld.xml

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 10:01, 7 May 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Thank you James for the proof that this really is happening right now. Nothing like a lawsuit to shine the light.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 18:07, 7 May 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Alive, it is actually Zami which comes from the Haitian creole language. Saka fet zami?= whats going on my friend? originally I thought it was Zameen. so I just kept it and went with it

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 19:03, 7 May 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Okay, my Lord. Di ou mesi.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 20:11, 7 May 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Alive- tre bien

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 21:52, 7 May 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Contact Report 512

2011-05-07T18:03:40Z

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2011-05-06T22:46:34Z

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Talk:Why Is It so Important for Us to Learn so Much, Especially in our Current Lifetime? Or How Can We Enable Ourselves to Spread the Teaching of Spirit, the Teaching of Life and the Teaching of Truth?

2011-05-02T20:25:26Z

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Earth humans or for that matter, any intelligent Being should strive for their highest spiritual "potentials" which vary amongst each, depending on their past and current attributes and it's connections to the Cause and Effect concept.

One must approach these "potentials" with a clear sight, void of one's ego, pride, physical self, religious and self imposed restrictions, because only then will one be ready for self explorations that goes beyond dimensions.

Thus, in order to "understand" these creational teachings, one must be able to "see" and become "aware" of the intricacy explanations and how they "interconnect" amongst the material and non-material realms of reality.

What good is a very complex technique or concept which appears "normal" for one who has advanced knowledge explaining these to those of the same level, yet cannot explain it logically to those at a lower evolutionary scale? Knowledge and experience should go both ways, forward and backward, for doing so benefits all parties that may lack in one of these most important attribute.

Spiritual evolution is always evolving and never stagnates, what may appear illogical to some may appear logical to others and the purpose of Creational teachings is to establish a logical balance amongst these opposing forces in order to maintain harmony throughout all dimensions.

--Hawaiian 22:45, 18 April 2010 (BST)
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== levit8 said ... ==

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This makes clear and absolute sense.
"We must not only know the words to the song and only
know of the songs existence,by we must be able to sing the song our way out of our own mouths and talent".
Excellent Editorial

--levit8 08:58, 19 April 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Aloha Levit8
Levit8 has an excellent analogy to Rebecca Walkiw/Marianne Uehlinger Mondria article as musical notes on a universal scale in which “its” harmony is unique for each individual’s attributes which are tuned accordingly to his/her composite makeup and utilization.

Just to add a “spice of flavoring” to an other-wise extremely well organized thoughtful discussion regarding the “interface” (my opinion) between one’s Conscious and Subconscious (where personalities knowledge and experience “exists”)

Marianne
only the consciousness-block-programs are existent—however in a completely neutral form. The former, enormous knowledge of our predecessor-personalities is therefore hidden as essence in the memory of our subconsciousness and in detail as data-impulses in all the external storage-banks.

Hawaiian
Here Marianne “hints” or points to two very important parameters (if you may) that are “interfaced” by one’s awareness or ability to “harmonize” Creational energy. The first is the fact that one’s cumulatative past personality’s knowledge and experiences known as the consciousness-block are stored in one’s subconscious are in NEUTUAL FORM or pure creational energy. It has to be in neutral form, detached from its original personality in order to be “made” accessible to the current living personality, otherwise possible conflicting actions may occur?

Marianne
From there, (The former, enormous knowledge of our predecessor-personalities is therefore hidden as essence) it can be activated through our conscious searching and inquiring, because only by intercepting inspirations of the subconsciousness and by consciously and continuously working with them, do the involved consciousness-forms or consciousness-levels and the memory of the consciousness evolve and create corresponding update.

Hawaiian
This activation process are triggered by “love, modesty, responsibility, respect, peace, harmony, honesty, empathy/compassion, patience, etc., but intellect-related values are naturally also important for our material life.”

Also the “essence” in one’s memory of the subconscious is “upgraded” and evolves further when one’s conscious actively engage in thoughts or actions that have the same or similar frequency of those currently stored there. That is the reason why one experiences (for a better word) deva vu or the feeling of “being here before”. Often engaging with others via language communication and the sharing of creational ideas are mutually beneficial even for those who are advanced with “lesser” evolved entities as some on Earth that have similar spiritual potentials because of ancestral roots being currently incarnated here.

“Intercepting inspirations”, from what I gather, relates to frequency harmony similar to musical notes when played together, resonates a rather pleasing tone to the ear as well as to the psyche. It may also explain the color of one’s aura when one engages in creational endeavors be it meditation, music, work and being aware of all your connections that span your origins here on Earth and other places where one’s ancestors and/or spirit came from.

I think this article would make a pleasant tone together with a short analysis I wrote about Billy Meier being an interface with practically every single event played out in the DERN universe via Nokodemjion incarnation. Your part is equally important.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 02:09, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
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For whom religions and its evil,false teachings still afflict; all too easily one can sit idle while believing in fantasy,however,tremendous effort and struggle is undertaken for those who realise the importance of obtaining knowledge of the truth in reality. Glorious is the almighty Creation.

--[[User:BraveKnight|BraveKnight]] 09:36, 4 April 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Zameen,

I'm putting together a summary of related concepts that has been written so far in conjunction to others being worked on in order to describe more in detail about the theory of Equational Potential formulations and would highly appreciate your knowledge of the German language in order to "keep on track" these analysis.

It is sort of going from inward to outward from English to German and vice a versa.

Contact Shelia on correspondence details if you are interested, thanks Shelia..

Hawaiian

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:45, 2 May 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Hawaiian- Hello hope your well. I would love to help you but i simply do not know German at all. I am very interested in learning for obvious reasons but portuguese is the only other language other than english that i know. sorry again.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 21:25, 2 May 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Are UFOs real?

2011-04-28T02:22:07Z

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Who are these three ETs who are obseriving us?
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== A few more questions ==

First off, if those ETs are really earth people from the future how can they be consider Exter terristrials? second, aside Jmmanuel, is budda, horus, Krishna, Laozi, Perseus all plajaren human hybrids. They are said to be virgins births casue people worship they though lyrans or pleijrans are gods. These grey andriods, are they part living? one abductee said they were part rayed in and part plant life.

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Greetings,
I understand this lady has channelled information from The Pleiadians. Barbara Marciniak. Is it all true? They stated we should get rid of our TV as affects our frequency for receiving information from prime creator. Is this true? Here is the transcript.
Thanks and take it easy,
Julianus

--[[User:Wingstalysis|Wingstalysis]] 00:26, 20 April 2011 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Barbara Marciniak is an absolute fraud. Word of advice: don't trust one word she is saying.

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 00:31, 20 April 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I don't understand the UFO theory. There could be unidentified ground or sea objects yet the air gets all the glory. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 00:52, 28 April 2011 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Aha but you're talking about USOs: Unidentified Submerged Objects.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 01:18, 28 April 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Barbara Marciniak urged people through her books to leave a womans menses in each corner of the property as per the advice of the pleaidian's!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! menses, really? menses barbara? stop it, stop it, stop it!!!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 03:22, 28 April 2011 (BST)
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Talk:Contact Report 435

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== Jamesm said ... ==

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I wonder what is inside the central core...?

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 18:14, 24 April 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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is it creation itself?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 19:00, 24 April 2011 (BST)
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