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Hello Hawaiian. it seems you have certainly put a lot of thought into this and I must say it sounds very logical. I think other planets are not having such enormously varied outcomes evolutionarily speaking because they haven't been through what this planet has been through with so many e.t.s stopping by to mess with the indigenous peoples,or coming here with negative genetic variations, religions, cosmic refugees with vastly different degrees of evolution coming here and dying.btw, I used earthworm because Billy seems to be fond of it. I just saw on ABC news a big ufo sighting over an airport in Mongolia. they shut the airport down because they were afraid that they would hit it! and just today another sighting in broad daylight in New York city. both reported on ABC news. my opinion is, it is us doing it and they're ratcheting up the sightings for the big holographic fake ufo invasion. the reason why I think this is, is because major news networks never touch the ufo case but now its all over the place. it just seems way too contrived and planned out.  Michael Horn has also been discussing it more and more on his radio show and he isnt one of the conspiracy nuts either.back to what you were saying.this push for consciousness  awareness is being hampered deliberately with fear and religions because you cant lead people around by the nose if they know the truth.
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Bigfoot said ...

It is a greater honor that I live to learn from Eduard at a time that he lives! long live Eduard!You bring Joy!

--Bigfoot 03:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

zameen said ...

I second that emotion:)


--zameen 20:36, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

I would firmly agree also, but I think Eduard "Billy" Meier and the Plejaren Alliance, including the evolved spiritual levels from the Arahat Athersata to the Petale would be much pleased if more Earth humans become spiritually evolved to begin teaching at the same or close to BEAMS's level within his life cycle here on Earth.

The potentials are there, but requires hard work.

--Hawaiian 08:24, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Manuel Hernández said ...

Superb Mr. Eduard Meier. A true Prophet of our times. I recognize your gigantic work and great mission. So I present unto you my respects and thanks for such an important information, knowledge and wisdom. All of this confirms my own works, which were written without any Alien contacts. I agree with almost 100% of your issues. I'd like to have all your books, specially those containing the Plajarian Messages, in ebook version, because I don't read paper books anymore due to deforestation. Apart from that I'm a private researcher and teacher with not enough money to buy books. Also I want to help spreading your teachings and messages in my native language Spanish. I'm a radio commentator and newspaper articles writer. My email mmm@centromultiverso.com -My website www.centromultiverso.com Also, I'm the founder of the MMM a foundation for cosmic studies. My best regards and greetings from Loja-Ecuador-South America.


--Dr. Manuel Hernández 14:33, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

zameen said ...

Hawiian:Is it not true that Beams spirit form is tens of billions of years old? How can we possibly reach such an amazing state of evolution in the time that is left within Billy's current life. And also, is his spirit form one in the same as jmmanuel. I read somewhere yesterday that he is but I didn't think that sounded right. Wouldn't this make quetzal's spirit form and billy's connected in regards to quetzals spirit Form having been gabriel, the cosmic father of jmmanuel? I could use some clarification. Thank you Salome!

--zameen 21:10, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Mark said ...

I somehow stumbled upon his teachings oddly when searching for outer space topics. Extraterrestrial stuff and when I read all the contact reports they are very sincere and genuine. He doesn't claim to be perfect but he does have divine intentions for his fellow man. :)

--Mark 21:55, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Manuel Hernández said ...

In the page "Discovery of the Talmud of Jmmanuel (TJ)" it says: "However, he and his family, like the other refugees, had to flee so suddenly that Rashid had no time to retrieve the Aramaic rolls or his further translations of them, and they were destroyed in the resulting conflagration." So. How do you explain that: "In 1976 Meier learned that Rashid and his family were assassinated in Baghdad, making him (Meier) the only known surviving witness to the TJ's discovery and historicity. About this time he started preparing the TJ translations for self-publication"??? How Billy translated himself the Talmud of Jmmanuel If the rolls were destroyed and dissapeared?? Please, explain it to us. My best regards.

--Dr. Manuel Hernández 11:28, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Manuel Hernández said ...

I do not wanna put in doubt the good intentions on behalf Mr. Meier, but If I don't have a clear answer It starts looking like the Joseph Smith story, the Mormon prophet, whose golden plates were also lost, not to show evidence of his lies. Sorry for the question, but I'm a professor researcher, that's my job. I agree the messages are great, but the truth must be good, too. Greetings.

--Dr. Manuel Hernández 11:36, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Takamine said ...

Dr. Manuel Hernández - From what I can remember from the contact notes, Rashid was the translator and sent the translated documents to Billy while he was still alive.

--Takamine 14:35, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

zameen said ...

Dr. Hernandez. The complete information on this topic is available. Isa Rashid was sending translated notes to Billy. He even told him he was being hunted. It would be easier for you to simply dig deeper into this exciting bounty of information than to ask little questions with short answers. Also, along the way you will be enlightened to several different topics of interest that in my opinion, will surely bring you to more complete understandings of several

--zameen 17:04, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

zameen said ...

Dr. Hernandez. The complete information on this topic is available. Isa Rashid was sending translated notes to Billy. He even told him he was being hunted. It would be easier for you to simply dig deeper into this exciting bounty of information than to ask little questions with short answers. Also, along the way you will be enlightened to several different topics of interest that in my opinion, will surely bring you to a more complete understanding of several different topics. Happy researching! Salome!

--zameen 17:04, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

Hawiian:Is it not true that Beams spirit form is tens of billions of years old? How can we possibly reach such an amazing state of evolution in the time that is left within Billy's current life? And also, is his spirit form one in the same as jmmanuel. I read somewhere yesterday that he is but I didn't think that sounded right. Wouldn't this make quetzal's spirit form and Billy’s connected in regards to quetzals spirit Form having been Gabriel, the cosmic father of jmmanuel? I could use some clarification. Thank you Salome!

Zameem,

It was designed to give others the motivation to go beyond the restrictions they place upon themselves by believing they can NEVER obtain the evolutionary status currently found in BEAM. Your second question implies to such restrictions, although yes the Nokodemjon spirit is over 86 billion years old and Earth humans vary depending on the re-incarnated origins and other factors still needed to be determined, but still fall short on this time period if one only perceives this based on age only.

But, does evolution only depend on this time criteria in order to evolve, is it not a restriction based the so-called coarse and fine energy relationship, yet humans have the potentials of 6th and 7th senses? One person asked about why there are “voids” or “empty spaces” in Billy’s interpretation regarding the psyche and psychology. I believe it was designed that way to accommodate the different evolutionary stages of each individual to “fill in”, according to their unique eqautional potentials they bring. Therefore the door does not slam shut once that individual becomes Aware of their relationship in these matters, but have the opportunity to evolve even further in their current life cycle should that be accomplished.

Thus, this “blue print” of Creational laws are not restricted to some LINEAR process based on number of years, but more importantly based on one’s motivational push through Consciousness Awareness utilizing all the facilities that each has, whether presently activated or dormant that are inter-connected by both the physical and fine material attributes, like in that fine example you have described about Quetzal, being connected to Jmmanuel via his father Gabriel and Mary (Earth human).

So one can also say the Earth humans are also connected to the Plejarens as well as Nokodemjon and now have the opportunity to evolve much further than just some time frame restrictions because BEAM is the interface between all these relevant parties to include even the malevolent ones, if they so wish to endeavor.

Finally, one should now cycle back and answer your question, would be NO if only based on a time frame analysis and YES, because if one does evolve to Billy’s level of evolution, Eduard who certainly be very happy and at the same time be further evolved in the evolutionary process, simply because time is of no essence. I had to further develop this in order to laid the proper foundation for such complicated matters..Salome and Aloha…


--Hawaiian 18:43, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

zameen said ...

Thank you so much hawaiian. These are truly the types of answer's I've been looking for. Thank you to all that work towards this monumental achievement. I constantly refer back to the contact reports and www.theyfly.com for answers and new knowledge and information.btw, Zameen is creole for 'my friend' each time one types my nickname in reply you say 'my friend' Salome!

--zameen 02:04, 28 March 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

zameen,

I also thank you, my friend for providing a unique prospective as every individual is entitled to in order for me to "find" the solutions from a point-of-view that I was not aware of. Thus, I have learned a valuable lessen and is honored to be of assistance to this mission!

Which also brings honor to "my" spirit and past personalities that provide the foundation which I currently stand on. Salome

--Hawaiian 09:16, 28 March 2010 (BST)

Bigfoot said ...

Hi BEAM, your lights are on bright.

--Bigfoot 07:17, 1 July 2010 (BST)

anonymous said ...

I agree with a cap on population growth but WHY are these age requirements for breeding or marriage DIFFERENT for men and women?? THEY SHOULD BE THE SAME AGE REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH!

For someone so progressive on population issues this is incredibly sexist and stupid. There is a historical and social context of younger women being used, controlled, and treated as property by older men and this age differential has seeped into modern life, but male and female population numbers are reasonably equal (barring things like wars and artifical social environments such as killing of female offspring).

Again the male and female ages you post should be THE SAME. Continuing to expect older men to marry and breed with younger women skews the whole population when you consider that women typically outlive men. And where do you get off sanctioning a woman can breed or marry at say 25 while a man has to be 30??? IT SHOULD BE THE SAME AGE FOR BOTH.

I'm all for population control, believe me I practice it, but I cannot take your petition seriously when you have what sound like BIZARRE rules for how to implement this.

I hope there will be other people who notice there are some weird things written on this site. I'll bet a lot of people are signing this without reading some of the material - such as Billy Meier's ongoing contact with extraterrestrials!!!??

People - BE CAREFUL about jumping on the bandwagon with a man who talks to extraterrestrials(!!), and is pushing UNEQUAL ages of marriage and breeding for men and women. That is UNFAIR to the men as their ages are set higher, which is ridiculous!

JOIN A LEGITIMATE GROUP WORKING ON OVERPOPULATION - THERE ARE MANY OUT THERE.

--anonymous 07:32, 14 August 2010 (BST)

Neckel said ...

Well dear anoymous,

Thank you for your opinion. :)

However it is said:

Minimum age for marriage Female: 25 years Male: 30 years

Which means that this minimum age is required, and a man and a woman can very well marry having both 30 years of age or 31 or 32 or the man can have 30 and the women can have 35...... which does not mean that the women need to be younger than the man.... here you are extrapolating your personal feelings inside the text... How many marry young (< age of 25 or even before the age of 20) and divorce young i ask you ? In europe it's above 50 %. These are also only a suggestion not a dictatorial constraint, which can be discussed.

If i see all these teenage kids having children and destroying their future i would find it good to have a "drivers licence" for parents...... We have licences for every bull s***, so why not for having kids ? Why the idea of a specific age before procreating ? Because one can assume that above the age of 28 f.ex. one starts to aquire enough experience and strength to raise up childre in a good way. Because the education for kids is the most important and therefore ideally the kids need parents who are ready to assume the responsibility for raising their kids and who have the capabilities, also financially and psychologically, to do so....

If you feel at ease to call this a sect then please do so, but it will change absolutely nothing on the fact that at the moment many children grow up with divorced parents, with teenage parents........... and of course you are right that there are also other organisations who started to tackle the problem of overpopulation.......

With my best regards

--Neckel 09:35, 14 August 2010 (BST)

Jamesm said ...

Dear Anonymous,

Billy talks to extraterrestrials indeed. I haven't seen ET with my own eyes but others have and there is a plethora of supporting evidence, some of which is available on this site. The value in listening to the words of Billy and these ETs is that they are far more evolved, and therefore well informed, than the rest of us and it shows in the logic of their advice, again, much of which is available on this site. Please, spend some time reading the articles on this site. I assure you that it will make your life a lot happier and focused, among other things. On the other points, Neckel also writes the truth. It is written in the source article from where the petition is derived that, and I quote "The difference of age between men and women originates in the fact that, as a rule, girls physically mature faster than boys." A logical explanation indeed and obviously true by anyone's experience.

Take care

--Jamesm 20:40, 14 August 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

Jamesum,

I would have to agree with you and Neckel on the logic been the age difference, females marrying at a younger age than males because of earlier maturity rate, but also because of other attributes of the female gender.

Further analysis indicate at the chromosome level, females have a double XX, while males are XY, or to be more exact, exclusively "Y" from the father. Thus, a female have a more robust set of “attributes” and explains the reason why they are generally not negatively affected by disorders such as color blindness or other male-related disorders.

This could also explain the reasons (at least for Earthly males) that on the logical evolutionary scale, it is best to delay the regeneration process of males to a later date. Let the evolutionary stages of elimination or rather the non-production of degeneration occur (natural sterilization) in males happen before they reach 30 years old. By that time only those that have the proper reproductive contributions to regenerate without passing on disorders to the offspring; it's a natural selection process until technology becomes available to correct this.

Also true when analyzing the conversations between Billy and the ET's, in particular the Plejaren, one can realize the complexity between both parties, which relates to a mutual understanding of both at the same time. Every time both meet, there is an interchange amongst themselves, each having learned more of each and often if one examines more closely, you'll notice from Billy in having the Plejaren commit to his enquires although very subtle at times. There are much more than just causal conversations going on here and are often inter-dimensional as well.


--Hawaiian 22:14, 14 August 2010 (BST)

shullbitter said ...

billy is a false prophet and we know how god deals with false prophets

--shullbitter 15:11, 22 August 2010 (BST)

Jamesm said ...

Shullbitter, yes we know your Christian "god" does nothing about false prophets because he (with a small "h") does not exist and is a figment of your imagination. See Contact Report 70 for more info on some of the evil gods of old. God is just a word for a king of wisdom. Billy is logically a true prophet as so many of his predictions have already become true. To deny the truth is to deny your own evolution. Mankind must steer his future with logic, not blind faith, otherwise we will never learn to live in peace.

--Jamesm 16:02, 22 August 2010 (BST)

Bigfoot said ...

Who is we? Who is god? Who is Shullbitter?

--Bigfoot 03:46, 15 September 2010 (BST)

Zameen said ...

Thank you Billy. Your untiring dedication to us earthworms is a beacon of hope and strength!

--Zameen 14:55, 12 October 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

Aloha Zameen, I would agree that intellectually, a vast majority of Earth humans are no better than earthworms, existing at impulse levels and blinded by egotistic mindsets and pride to acknowledge it for their own good!

What BEAM brings forth are not just for Earth humans, but the Plejarens themselves including those of pure spiritual BEINGS, that the necessary foundation for further evolution are based on hard experiences and knowledge accumulated by a Being that has evolved into a pure spiritual BEING and later transformed itself back into a material Being in which the Nokodemjion spirit now resides in Billy.

Thus we have the knowledge and experiences of over 86 billion years from the material and pure spiritual Arahat Athersata level now interfaced with Billy, which further involves ALL dimensions since he represents every aspect since Nokodemjion co-created the Lyrian and Vegan races that are linked back since then and now, including all the positive as well as negative influences that ever occurred since then and currently evolving as we speak.

Even though some ET’s of the Lyrian or white race may claim they are separate from others, they can all be traced back to the original source many billions of years ago when Nokodemjion co-created them. Therefore do not think on linear terminology that events occur in some time-based sequence, when in actuality (accordingly to FIGU special bulletin 038) through proper Awareness (evolution), this “web” of inter-connections are set in motion when the appropriate harmonic vibrations or frequencies are established and acknowledged by your spirit as well as yourself through Awareness.

It is best for one to properly “tune” themselves into this network of sorts by getting rid of stagnated mindsets, absolute terminologies, pride, ego and other negative endeavors in order to logically apply their unique abilities so that Creational attributes amongst both the material and non material realms are in harmony for mutually beneficial co-existence. Upsetting this balance can only be resolved by applying logical measures for those in power to do so in accordance to the “intent” of evolutionary equational maturity.

Thanking BEAM, Nokodemjion, the Plejarens and others is a positive start, but becoming Aware or enlightened and connected to one’s interconnected “web” of existence through the harmonic essence of Creational BEING that vibrate across the spectrum of realms where we all merge (even briefly in material terms) is where we belong.

Some will say it is impossible or limit their ability to comprehend the fact that the potentials that lie within each and every intelligent Being (human or others) enables one to connect to the source of their existence. And from there (source) through time/space (dimensions) accumulating experiences/knowledge (life cycles, personalities) until the present, have this wealth of resources that only needs that “spark” of Awareness to become whole again, this time much more powerful than singular existence.

It is this manifestation between a BEING (Nokodemjion) and a Being (BEAM) that has interfaced all those 86 billion years of experiences/knowledge along with currently evolving experiences occurring right here on Earth which is so amazing, I am speechless to continue and let others experience it for themselves. So Zameen, my friend will you care to elaborate further from your prospective?


--Hawaiian 01:21, 14 October 2010 (BST)

Zameen said ...

Hello Hawaiian. it seems you have certainly put a lot of thought into this and I must say it sounds very logical. I think other planets are not having such enormously varied outcomes evolutionarily speaking because they haven't been through what this planet has been through with so many e.t.s stopping by to mess with the indigenous peoples,or coming here with negative genetic variations, religions, cosmic refugees with vastly different degrees of evolution coming here and dying.btw, I used earthworm because Billy seems to be fond of it. I just saw on ABC news a big ufo sighting over an airport in Mongolia. they shut the airport down because they were afraid that they would hit it! and just today another sighting in broad daylight in New York city. both reported on ABC news. my opinion is, it is us doing it and they're ratcheting up the sightings for the big holographic fake ufo invasion. the reason why I think this is, is because major news networks never touch the ufo case but now its all over the place. it just seems way too contrived and planned out. Michael Horn has also been discussing it more and more on his radio show and he isnt one of the conspiracy nuts either.back to what you were saying.this push for consciousness awareness is being hampered deliberately with fear and religions because you cant lead people around by the nose if they know the truth.

--Zameen 21:46, 14 October 2010 (BST)