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I find that quite funny about dancing man, I enjoy dancing myself but now I know how to deflect opposing races of beings around the cosmos in case of battle.  In the teaching of spirit however it says for those that understand it a little further are neither male nor female and one spirit. I wonder how that fits into the equation of dance if it only favors the female, would that not negate one pure spirit form. :)
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 02:27, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
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On Earth dancing is not only entertainment and sport but also an efficient psyche liberating activity, I do not know how it is on other planets.
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 03:56, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
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Accordingly to Wilikipedia, fag or faggot is actually an American slang for gay men, which derived from the British idea of “Queer”, see link.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_%28slang%29
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It appears that both Semjase and Billy do not approve of male dancing and to further this enquirer, please look at FIGU Bulletin 69 below which speaks of one’s evolutionary level being dependent on our previous personalities that have matured significantly (highest possible level of the innermost), thus in other words “highest potential” whether male or female specific attributes. One has to be consciously certain of their gender characteristic and not have second thoughts in their current material mindset.
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Therefore if some form of confusion regarding gender specific characteristics are present, whether a human male thinks or acts in a feminine nature, it causes some type of non-harmonic energy interchange between the conscious and subconscious since a male is slightly positive while a female is negative, one has to be certain and not disrupt this energy flow which is gender specific (at least on a material consciousness realm). If the present personality does not resolve or merge back into its specific male oriented characteristics, it becomes a problem for the next incarnation personality.
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Another problem of homosexuality is based on the unnatural “sleep cycle” between incarnations which on Earth is normally around 150 years, but because of overpopulation this cycle period is cut short as much as 30 years in the ether before incarnating again.
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I believe the only evolutionary level where there is no distinction between a male and female attributes is at the Petale level where both are finally merged as ONE so that its evolutionary combinations become necessary in order to enter into the Absolute realm before creating more universes since the spirit is sexless by nature, neither male or female, but a unity of both.
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FIGU Bulletin 69
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Destination of the human-consciousness-evolution is to harmonize the external and internal self with the human’s relatively highest possible level of the innermost, creative self (spirit-form). Our individual evolutionary level is of course decisive, depending on whether or not our predecessor-personalities – and now we for the ones who come after us – recognized their responsibility and evolutionised in consciousness as far as possible in a creational sense. If not, our inner self is not congeneric (like-natured) with the innermost self or in other words with the knowledge, love and wisdom impulses of Creation, which flow via our spirit-form into our sub consciousness and on into our consciousness, where we – upon seizing them after they have passed through the censor – continue to work with them in our thoughts and feelings and to direct our inner according to them – at best.
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 08:51, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
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Some dance genres are extremely feminine that they should not be performed by male Earth human life forms in any circumstances, such as this one:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0oRsrNCkfc&feature=related
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 06:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
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Alive,
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Thinking about losing some extra pounds, check out Richard Simmons dancing workout? Just looking at all those obese women who shouldn’t be eating fatty foods and not exercising enough maybe they should help out on Billy’s farm pulling a plow instead of jumping around in some air conditioned room?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na9ZZ4ZjVa8
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 06:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
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Just watching that extremely feminine dance genre on youtube is a very efficient "psyche liberating activity," if you ask me. :-)
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--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 15:00, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
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In ancient time, only male Earth human life forms were allowed to perform solo dance and solo singing, female Earth human life forms could only dance in group and sing in choir. The invention of belly dance revolutionized the old custom and liberated female Earth dancers from the domination of male Earth dancers, male spectators, and male dance critics. I hold my tears everytime I watched a slim performing belly dancer, since I know that I was watching the legacy of ancient female dancers's struggle to become the masters of their own beauties.
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:03, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 
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Alive said ...

Billy: That sounds just as if such men are not full-fledged men because due to the incarnation cycle disturbances, they are not fully pronounced as male life forms, evidently in this case because of a too premature birth of the new personality?

Since overpopulation gives many disturbances on incarnation cycle, I guess there will be many more faggots born on this planet. They would disseminate their faggotism among little children as a part of their long-term project to build their faggot kingdoms all over the world and finally turn this planet into faggot-earth governed by the council of faggot elders.

My spirit will be incarnated on another planet and my personality will build 11 android batallions, send them to faggot-earth, destroy the council and its faggot state apparatuses, liberate all heterosexual minority from faggot machinations and oppressions, rectify human's understanding on erotic-love, and turn the planet back to become heterosexual planet, just like in those good old days.

Then I will unleash my rage to clean Dern universe from the remnants of faggotist parties and their lackeys. For the first time in its long evolution, this universe will be a completely heterosexual universe based on genuine erotic-love between men and women. The words of men will reflect the greatness of women who love them, just as the words of women reflect the greatness of men who love them. This universe will purify the meaning of love between men and women, just as the love has purified the meaning of this universe.

---- M -- 08:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Markvd said ...

That is very interesting view point on the rhythmic dance of men and women. I enjoy many forms of dance such as hip hop, ballroom, ballet on the other hand does have a uncomfortable feel when males do feminine manuevers.:) I personally do not judge people on there hobbies rather by how the accept difference in all beings. Eventually all our wrongs and rights shall accumulate to form our perspective. I guess that means no dancing allowed on the Plejaren front. I wonder if they partake in any strenuos activity at all.:)

--Markvd 08:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Sheila said ...

Hi Alive, that certainly is some messed up stuff you wrote. Your spirit will not incarnate on another planet (no matter how much you wish for it) and I hope you become a faggot in your next life. Only then will you realize how wrong your fantasies are. I find that most people who are against homosexuality are usually closet homosexuals. Is that the case with you?

--Sheila 22:23, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Alive said ...

Mark AKA Markvd, Dancing will not make you feminine as long as you don't wear violet breastholder, pink stockings, and lime green high heels. Dancing is not a feminine action, just as singing is not a masculine action. Anthropologically speaking, dancing rhytmically is a part of the opening and closing rites related to some tribal activitities, such as food gathering (fruits picking and animals hunting), crops planting, crops harvesting, cattles slaying, wedding, fighting against another tribe, and deads burying or burning. Dancing rhytmically raises tribe members's awareness and excitement, so they would feel energized and get ready to conduct the related activity, such as get ready to plant the crops, get ready to harvest, get ready to fight, and so on (in the case of a wedding rite, I really don't know get ready to what, it is still a mistery for me).

So there are various dances for various rites. A dance consists of various movements, which some of them imitate the movements of certain activities, for example dance movements which imitate hunting a boar, movements which imitate planting crops, movements imitate fighting with clubs, and so on (I strongly believe that there is no movement which imitate making babies). In their developments, the dance movements were modified over and over until we could not easily guess what tribal activities they imitate. Then later tribal people made new dances which are combinations of dances from different rites just for fun, to be performed as mere entertainments. Tribal dances are performed by man and woman together. For tribal people dancing is not feminine nor masculine action. It is something which is done by man and woman together, introduced and developed together over thousands of years, trillions of years, or what have you.

In a heterosexual adults surrounding, a dancing man could attract women's attentions because they saw a moving male's body. In the same surrounding, a dancing woman could attract men's attentions because they saw a moving female's body. A fisherman in a fishery tribe dances in an opening rite of a fishing season could make the women of the tribe get aroused, even if he doesn't mean to seduce them. A beautiful peasant woman in an agricultural tribe dances in a closing rite of a harvesting season could make the men of the tribe get aroused and leave their religion spontaneously, even if she doesn't mean to seduce those pathetic men. In a homosexual adult surrounding, the case would be quite different, which Sheila would be the best person to explain it to you in details.

By the way, dancing rhytmically is not only done by humans. Some animals, such as parrot and cobra, react to rhytmic sounds by dancing rhytmically. My laziness hinders me to find out why is that.

In a patriarchal royal court women danced more often than men, because men considered as the masters who should be entertained by dancing women. In a matriarchal royal court the opposite would be the case. Outside the royal courts, especially in the neighborhoods of peasants and proletariats men danced as often and as lively as women did. They entertained each other by their moves and facial expressions. By watching the dances of humans in various surroundings we could get some glimpses of the interpersonal equality between sexes, which are male and female, excluding the faggot, because faggot is not a sex type (in fact I have no idea how we should categorize this phenomenon).

There are events in which all participants should dance, whether rhytmically or not. Standing still could be considered as a hostile stance. People's willingness to dance for awhile is like willingness to shake hands. It does not necessarily mean to show friendship, but to show no hostility toward other person.


---- M -- 03:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Alive said ...

Sheila, Thank you for your comment. Please give me several billions years to reply it well. By the way, your hope that I will be reincarnated as a faggot implicitly showed that for you a faggot is something disgusting. Although you tried to show me your empathy for faggots, yet your words only showed me your hatred for them.



---- M -- 03:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Sheila said ...

Hey Alive, just using YOUR WORDS against you. Because of that you think I hate them? LOL. Take as long as you like to reply, as I see it is you that needs to learn empathy. It wasn't me that had a fantasy about destroying them. You really ought to read the Goblet of Truth.

--Sheila 15:34, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Markvd said ...

I find that quite funny about dancing man, I enjoy dancing myself but now I know how to deflect opposing races of beings around the cosmos in case of battle. In the teaching of spirit however it says for those that understand it a little further are neither male nor female and one spirit. I wonder how that fits into the equation of dance if it only favors the female, would that not negate one pure spirit form. :)

--Markvd 02:27, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Alive said ...

On Earth dancing is not only entertainment and sport but also an efficient psyche liberating activity, I do not know how it is on other planets.

---- M -- 03:56, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

Accordingly to Wilikipedia, fag or faggot is actually an American slang for gay men, which derived from the British idea of “Queer”, see link.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_%28slang%29


It appears that both Semjase and Billy do not approve of male dancing and to further this enquirer, please look at FIGU Bulletin 69 below which speaks of one’s evolutionary level being dependent on our previous personalities that have matured significantly (highest possible level of the innermost), thus in other words “highest potential” whether male or female specific attributes. One has to be consciously certain of their gender characteristic and not have second thoughts in their current material mindset.

Therefore if some form of confusion regarding gender specific characteristics are present, whether a human male thinks or acts in a feminine nature, it causes some type of non-harmonic energy interchange between the conscious and subconscious since a male is slightly positive while a female is negative, one has to be certain and not disrupt this energy flow which is gender specific (at least on a material consciousness realm). If the present personality does not resolve or merge back into its specific male oriented characteristics, it becomes a problem for the next incarnation personality.

Another problem of homosexuality is based on the unnatural “sleep cycle” between incarnations which on Earth is normally around 150 years, but because of overpopulation this cycle period is cut short as much as 30 years in the ether before incarnating again.


I believe the only evolutionary level where there is no distinction between a male and female attributes is at the Petale level where both are finally merged as ONE so that its evolutionary combinations become necessary in order to enter into the Absolute realm before creating more universes since the spirit is sexless by nature, neither male or female, but a unity of both.


FIGU Bulletin 69

Destination of the human-consciousness-evolution is to harmonize the external and internal self with the human’s relatively highest possible level of the innermost, creative self (spirit-form). Our individual evolutionary level is of course decisive, depending on whether or not our predecessor-personalities – and now we for the ones who come after us – recognized their responsibility and evolutionised in consciousness as far as possible in a creational sense. If not, our inner self is not congeneric (like-natured) with the innermost self or in other words with the knowledge, love and wisdom impulses of Creation, which flow via our spirit-form into our sub consciousness and on into our consciousness, where we – upon seizing them after they have passed through the censor – continue to work with them in our thoughts and feelings and to direct our inner according to them – at best.


--Hawaiian 08:51, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Alive said ...

Some dance genres are extremely feminine that they should not be performed by male Earth human life forms in any circumstances, such as this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0oRsrNCkfc&feature=related

---- M -- 06:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

Alive,

Thinking about losing some extra pounds, check out Richard Simmons dancing workout? Just looking at all those obese women who shouldn’t be eating fatty foods and not exercising enough maybe they should help out on Billy’s farm pulling a plow instead of jumping around in some air conditioned room?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na9ZZ4ZjVa8


--Hawaiian 06:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Benjamin Stevens said ...

Just watching that extremely feminine dance genre on youtube is a very efficient "psyche liberating activity," if you ask me. :-)

--βενιαμιν 15:00, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

I said ...

In ancient time, only male Earth human life forms were allowed to perform solo dance and solo singing, female Earth human life forms could only dance in group and sing in choir. The invention of belly dance revolutionized the old custom and liberated female Earth dancers from the domination of male Earth dancers, male spectators, and male dance critics. I hold my tears everytime I watched a slim performing belly dancer, since I know that I was watching the legacy of ancient female dancers's struggle to become the masters of their own beauties.

---- M -- 04:03, 3 November 2011 (UTC)