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There have been concerns raised about Luton as a meeting location for the Southern England Interessengruppe für die FIGU-Mission group.
 
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* Cambridge or Oxford town is more in-line with FIGU, reasonably centrally located in England, atleast in terms of the history of knowledge about evolution, would make more sense.
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* Cambridge or Oxford town is more in-line with FIGU, atleast in terms of the history of knowledge about evolution, would make more sense, reasonably centrally located in England.
* Meeting wherever Women's suffrage protests were held would make more sense than meeting where a quarter of the population is muslim.
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* Meeting wherever Women's suffrage protests were originally held would make more sense than meeting where a quarter of the population is Muslim, for proportional representation.
 
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* The EDL originated from a group known as the "United Peoples of Luton"  
 
* The EDL originated from a group known as the "United Peoples of Luton"  

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The Southern England Interessengruppe für die FIGU-Mission


How The Southern England Interessengruppe für die FIGU-Mission Began

  • Newsletter No. 1 June 2016[1]

The Southern England Interessengruppe[2] für die FIGU-Mission (Southern England Interest group for the FIGU mission) was founded in August 2015 By Karl Beaney and I, Stephen Moore.

Before the formation of the Southern England Interessengruppe für die FIGU-Mission an attempt to form an official FIGU group in England was made by both Karl and I, along with another FIGU passive member.

This attempt failed before any fruits developed. Karl and I kept in contact, determined to form and be part of an official FIGU group. We met and discussed how we would like to go about making a FIGU group here in England a reality. We decided to present FIGU Switzerland with an application to form an Interessengruppe für die FIGU-Mission here in England.

Our decision to form this group over a FIGU-Studiengruppe was based on the fact that there were only 2 members in the group and we could not fulfil the requirements of a FIGU-Studiengruppe. Further we wanted to have a group that is open to non FIGU passive members due to there being only 7 passive members in England. This allows the group to be open for interested persons who wish to further their study and understanding of the Spiritual Teaching without any obligation to become FIGU passive members. We presented some initial ideas to FIGU by means of Christian Frehner, who presented our list of ideas and request for permission to form an official FIGU group in England.

Some of our initial ideas included a website, Booklets pertaining to different aspects and topics of the Spiritual Teaching and Eduard Meier’s contacts with the Plejaren. Further, we wanted to visit conferences around England to hand out booklets and talk to any interested persons.

After we received permission from Christian Frehner, from the CG49, Karl and I started work on our first booklet named “Why is Eduard Albert Meier the only authentic UFO contactee of the Plejaren Federation on Earth?”.

The website was developed by myself with further help from Karl who provided translations and documents.

The group now has three more members, Aimee, Scott and Jonathan.

After interest in the group from the website, we arranged to meet up at a location suitable for all of us. The group meetings now take place every second Saturday of each month in Luton. The group is going very well and thus far has achieved more than we thought we would in only a short time.

Regular contact with Christian Frehner, for his support and advice, as well as his friendship, takes place and all booklets and other materials that are created within the group also get shared with FIGU Switzerland. For the near future England has an Interessengruppe für die FIGU-Mission and members can further their interest in the truth and the true meaning of life.

By Stephen Moore

Concerns raised over meeting location

There have been concerns raised about Luton as a meeting location for the Southern England Interessengruppe für die FIGU-Mission group.


  • Cambridge or Oxford town is more in-line with FIGU, atleast in terms of the history of knowledge about evolution, would make more sense, reasonably centrally located in England.
  • Meeting wherever Women's suffrage protests were originally held would make more sense than meeting where a quarter of the population is Muslim, for proportional representation.

  • The EDL originated from a group known as the "United Peoples of Luton"
  • Lutons disproportionate demography to the rest of England has raised concerns in some that would be FIGU interested individuals may feel alienated, be put off from participation, that there may be concealed transit dangers for FIGU members, which may make individuals feel uncomfortable with ongoing participations.
  • Others have argued that this location makes the exchanges more inclusive to a wider cross-section of British folk even if it does make participation a less attractive proposition to others.
  • That Lutons industriousness may put off would be participation in those that find industrial activities distasteful and prefer natural environments, at least in their spare time, that furthermore they also may seek participation as a break from these environments, may even expect it given the various FIGU philosophies.
  • Lutons several waves of immigration in the early part of the 20th century aside making the town disproportionally representative of England, has caused ongoing territorial issues, an unfair level of criminality, often used to stage protests and witnesses altercation events such as knifing attacks etc. which make national headlines at a disproportionately representative level than the rest of the country for towns of this size.
  • Concerns that English woman, western woman, western European woman may find the towns disproportional 25% Islamic faith population off-putting as a place where participation would be a logical and comfortable step forward due to Muslim Mens expectations of woman which not only are not congruent with the rest of England, not represent the evolution of the British they're also alienating and that the Gaze may be an issue for them in transit to and from the meeting location.
  • The 50% Christian population is disproportional to the rest of the country. There was some concern that individuals from other nations might think England is mostly a composite of Christians when this is far from true. Many of the Christians in Luton are not even from England.
  • The 30% Asian 10% black demographic has raised concerns that would be English FIGU individuals may not feel like they are joining an English community but instead joining a community that could just as well be in any other nation.
  • That the location mocks whether intentional or not the FIGU directives, that there is absolutely no point whatsoever in having this rule about international FIGU cooperation in a town as multicultural as Luton.
  • That transit to and from the meeting location may have unnecessary criminal dangers including criminal dangers that some from other areas of the country may not be familiar or educated about, ignorant of. Various safety concerns that in normal areas of England are not of concern and never have been. There was also concern that by responsible FIGU members choosing this location that it would somehow certify would-be interested individuals that the location from verified as a safe location, even though by no means could this be guaranteed at this location.
  • Individuals from other nations in the world may think that this location is normal in England when it isn't. It doesn't represent England's history nor the view the rest of the world has of England nor does it proportionally represent the English themselves. For example at Maidenhall primary school in Luton, 98.9 per cent of pupils do not speak English as their first language, not normal in England.
  • There was also some concerns raised that by staging the meetings in Luton that the organisers were sweeping Englands various problems under the carpet by legitimising them, adding legitimacy by positive reinforcement, instead of standing away from these problems as a way of neutrally voting with feet.
  • Some individuals have raised concerns that its more offensive a location to meet than simply describing the situation on the ground itself, which could be, as demonstrated here offensive. Avoiding the location would be less offensive.
  • Some have also gone all the way the other way and claimed that simply by naming these concerns it creates more a problem and territorial issue than it really needs to be, some have disagreed.

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