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== Hawaiian said ... ==
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Zameen,
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Is the forum for USA FIGU this website?:
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http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi
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If so, than it is still active and Billy does answer questions coming from members of this website as recently as Dec 24 2011. Where did you read Methusalem’s blog, it should be interesting reading?
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 19:16, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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http://methimeier.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/an-open-letter-to-the-figu/      This is the link Hawaiian. Salome!!
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--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 22:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==
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Mahalo Zameen,
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I just read the whole letter which gives a rather detailed prospective of over 30 years from Methusalem's life at the SSSC. I can understand why Billy had a nervous breakdown previously from all those various 49 core member personalities, some of which are from the original spirit forms of the infallible 144, 228 ring leaders responsible for the religious madness that still consume Earthly matters.
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I still believe that the core members should have been more properly screened and constantly evaluated to determine if retention or replacement with more qualified people is appropriate.
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Even if only 50 percent of what Methusalem says are true, it indicates some alarming circumstances at the SSSC that needs immediate attention because it threatens the entire mission at hand and if not taken care of soon, will be a tremendous setback for the whole planet as well.
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The lives of every single prophet was extremely harsh and overbearing including Billy who is still a human and makes mistakes just the same. There will always be issues between family members, but adults should deal with these matters in a mature manner, which sometimes appear lacking on his part and should have not been made public but remain private to be dealt at that level especially if it occurred during adolescent years
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:53, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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i do not know if i qualify to be a passive member but i will say this i have tried as hard as i could possibly could to educate people about billy and his message.it saddens me to see the figu usa get shut down but then i do not know what has happened there.i really hope for the sake of the humanity on earth and for the earth itself that all of us can come together and open the eyes of the people who are blind to reality and are blinded by religions. thanks to billy and his friends and may their mission succeed. michael
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--[[User:Curious|Curious]] 11:08, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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i do not know if i qualify to be a passive member but i will say this i have tried as hard as i could possibly could to educate people about billy and his message.it saddens me to see the figu usa get shut down but then i do not know what has happened there.i really hope for the sake of the humanity on earth and for the earth itself that all of us can come together and open the eyes of the people who are blind to reality and are blinded by religions. thanks to billy and his friends and may their mission succeed. michael
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--[[User:Curious|Curious]] 11:57, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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Do not worry Curious one, it does not matter the organization or how many they possess, it's about quality truth bearers vs. dramatic soap opera dictators. Organization is the key to success and reshuffling of quality thinking and success in previous missions dealing with such characteristics in people on top will yield good results. :)
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:40, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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The timing between the official shut down of FIGU USA (Nov 2011) and Methusalem’s letter and separation from the SSSC (Dec 2011) appears uncanny close, just hope it is not co-related? Because having the very son of Billy Meier, the 7th prophet coming to the USA would be a huge public relations addition to FIGU USA regardless of the personal issues between him, his father Billy and the SSSC core members.
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Although his visa to the U.S. is at a low level status, it certainly could be upgraded if FIGU USA was still on official recognition status with the SSSC and someone here could have sponsored Methusalem as a working individual or maybe permanent status. Just hope politics had nothing to do with the disbanding of FIGU USA?
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Sometimes a burned and battered tree that has somehow survived a devastating forest fire often recovers and become much more resistant to future fires and produce generation seeding that are stronger than its parental partners even though both may be separated on different continents. Life is always evolving; maybe the mission needs to evolve too instead of being centrally administered by the core SSSC?
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It would have been very interesting if Methusalem were to take a leadership role at FIGU USA and steer that organization to the same mission as SSSC, but without all the drama that appears to be present at that location. Maybe instead of just a European prospective, the mission could also get a U.S. view, since its America that plays a dominating role in Earthly affairs whether one likes it or not, the biggest gorilla will always be in the middle of your room and only he decides whether to move or not.
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I think it’s a loss that we all will miss and hope SSSC will re-consider if not, then maybe Methusalem should take the imitative and continue the mission regardless of what SSSC says.
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:07, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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Barbarian I love my family as well but sometimes they don't qualify for certain objectives and I will not utilize them if they do not meet the requirements necessary for a absolute victory for all mankind. Eventually they will but if they are not ready yet, time to appoint a stranger with better qualifications and get it done the right way. :)
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 00:35, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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not to get off topic but i was wondering if there was some kind of way i could either download the whole book of om are buy it. does anyone have any information on this?
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--[[User:Curious|Curious]] 13:38, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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not to get off topic but i was wondering if there was some kind of way i could either download the whole book of om are buy it. does anyone have any information on this?
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--[[User:Curious|Curious]] 14:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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Wow! That's a fascinating experience, my Brother. :)
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--[[User:BraveKnight|BraveKnight]] 08:00, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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Hey, Curious, my Brother, I did a little research into the book of OM, the book of truth. From what I have ascertained there is no translation into english of it yet as of 2004. The German version is sold by Meier's group (FIGU). Hope this was helpful :)
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--[[User:BraveKnight|BraveKnight]] 08:25, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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thanks to those of you that answered my question and i have to agree with hawaiian he should have kept family matters within the family group but i can understand that he is hurt and maybe this is his only way of getting this matter straightened out. thank you to braveknight for the info on the book of om.peace and love to all of you  michael ps i do not know why my post are coming up doubled.
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--[[User:Curious|Curious]] 10:35, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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thanks to those of you that answered my question and i have to agree with hawaiian he should have kept family matters within the family group but i can understand that he is hurt and maybe this is his only way of getting this matter straightened out. thank you to braveknight for the info on the book of om.peace and love to all of you  michael ps i do not know why my post are coming up doubled.
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--[[User:Curious|Curious]] 10:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 
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Markvd said ...

I never knew there existed a FIGU USA, so no loss for mankind at all.:) The teachings should be spread from a reliable straight to the point and living correctly perspective. I think they should just go online on Youtube or any and all services and spread the teachings throught a central hub of excellence rather than of mediocrity that could compromise victory.

--Markvd 19:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Zameen said ...

I just read a letter from Methusalem's blog talking about the figu usa and his apparent discontent with the core member's and their treatment of him and Billy's treatment of him which according to this blog if it is Methusalem actually writing this, sounds quite disconcerting but also it sounds like someone who is very angry and who is lashing out a bit.

--Zameen 23:43, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

Zameen,

Is the forum for USA FIGU this website?:


http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi

If so, than it is still active and Billy does answer questions coming from members of this website as recently as Dec 24 2011. Where did you read Methusalem’s blog, it should be interesting reading?


--Hawaiian 19:16, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Zameen said ...

http://methimeier.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/an-open-letter-to-the-figu/ This is the link Hawaiian. Salome!!

--Zameen 22:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

Mahalo Zameen,

I just read the whole letter which gives a rather detailed prospective of over 30 years from Methusalem's life at the SSSC. I can understand why Billy had a nervous breakdown previously from all those various 49 core member personalities, some of which are from the original spirit forms of the infallible 144, 228 ring leaders responsible for the religious madness that still consume Earthly matters.

I still believe that the core members should have been more properly screened and constantly evaluated to determine if retention or replacement with more qualified people is appropriate.

Even if only 50 percent of what Methusalem says are true, it indicates some alarming circumstances at the SSSC that needs immediate attention because it threatens the entire mission at hand and if not taken care of soon, will be a tremendous setback for the whole planet as well.

The lives of every single prophet was extremely harsh and overbearing including Billy who is still a human and makes mistakes just the same. There will always be issues between family members, but adults should deal with these matters in a mature manner, which sometimes appear lacking on his part and should have not been made public but remain private to be dealt at that level especially if it occurred during adolescent years


--Hawaiian 00:53, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Curious said ...

i do not know if i qualify to be a passive member but i will say this i have tried as hard as i could possibly could to educate people about billy and his message.it saddens me to see the figu usa get shut down but then i do not know what has happened there.i really hope for the sake of the humanity on earth and for the earth itself that all of us can come together and open the eyes of the people who are blind to reality and are blinded by religions. thanks to billy and his friends and may their mission succeed. michael

--Curious 11:08, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Curious said ...

i do not know if i qualify to be a passive member but i will say this i have tried as hard as i could possibly could to educate people about billy and his message.it saddens me to see the figu usa get shut down but then i do not know what has happened there.i really hope for the sake of the humanity on earth and for the earth itself that all of us can come together and open the eyes of the people who are blind to reality and are blinded by religions. thanks to billy and his friends and may their mission succeed. michael

--Curious 11:57, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Markvd said ...

Do not worry Curious one, it does not matter the organization or how many they possess, it's about quality truth bearers vs. dramatic soap opera dictators. Organization is the key to success and reshuffling of quality thinking and success in previous missions dealing with such characteristics in people on top will yield good results. :)

--Markvd 21:40, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

The timing between the official shut down of FIGU USA (Nov 2011) and Methusalem’s letter and separation from the SSSC (Dec 2011) appears uncanny close, just hope it is not co-related? Because having the very son of Billy Meier, the 7th prophet coming to the USA would be a huge public relations addition to FIGU USA regardless of the personal issues between him, his father Billy and the SSSC core members.

Although his visa to the U.S. is at a low level status, it certainly could be upgraded if FIGU USA was still on official recognition status with the SSSC and someone here could have sponsored Methusalem as a working individual or maybe permanent status. Just hope politics had nothing to do with the disbanding of FIGU USA?

Sometimes a burned and battered tree that has somehow survived a devastating forest fire often recovers and become much more resistant to future fires and produce generation seeding that are stronger than its parental partners even though both may be separated on different continents. Life is always evolving; maybe the mission needs to evolve too instead of being centrally administered by the core SSSC?

It would have been very interesting if Methusalem were to take a leadership role at FIGU USA and steer that organization to the same mission as SSSC, but without all the drama that appears to be present at that location. Maybe instead of just a European prospective, the mission could also get a U.S. view, since its America that plays a dominating role in Earthly affairs whether one likes it or not, the biggest gorilla will always be in the middle of your room and only he decides whether to move or not.

I think it’s a loss that we all will miss and hope SSSC will re-consider if not, then maybe Methusalem should take the imitative and continue the mission regardless of what SSSC says.


--Hawaiian 23:07, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Markvd said ...

Barbarian I love my family as well but sometimes they don't qualify for certain objectives and I will not utilize them if they do not meet the requirements necessary for a absolute victory for all mankind. Eventually they will but if they are not ready yet, time to appoint a stranger with better qualifications and get it done the right way. :)

--Markvd 00:35, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Curious said ...

not to get off topic but i was wondering if there was some kind of way i could either download the whole book of om are buy it. does anyone have any information on this?

--Curious 13:38, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Curious said ...

not to get off topic but i was wondering if there was some kind of way i could either download the whole book of om are buy it. does anyone have any information on this?

--Curious 14:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

BraveKnight said ...

Wow! That's a fascinating experience, my Brother. :)

--BraveKnight 08:00, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

BraveKnight said ...

Hey, Curious, my Brother, I did a little research into the book of OM, the book of truth. From what I have ascertained there is no translation into english of it yet as of 2004. The German version is sold by Meier's group (FIGU). Hope this was helpful :)

--BraveKnight 08:25, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Curious said ...

thanks to those of you that answered my question and i have to agree with hawaiian he should have kept family matters within the family group but i can understand that he is hurt and maybe this is his only way of getting this matter straightened out. thank you to braveknight for the info on the book of om.peace and love to all of you michael ps i do not know why my post are coming up doubled.

--Curious 10:35, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Curious said ...

thanks to those of you that answered my question and i have to agree with hawaiian he should have kept family matters within the family group but i can understand that he is hurt and maybe this is his only way of getting this matter straightened out. thank you to braveknight for the info on the book of om.peace and love to all of you michael ps i do not know why my post are coming up doubled.

--Curious 10:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)