Talk:FIGU Bulletin 48

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Alive said ...

"An escape from reality is achieved with alcohol or hard drugs - or while human beings are religious or sectarian." It reminds me of Karl Marx who said that religion is somekind of opium for the masses.

---- M -- 16:57, 13 September 2010 (BST)

Markvd said ...

I wonder if some brilliant ET race bent on destroying our young developing minds developed alcohol and drugs or are we the creators of these deteriorating substances. Once again these substances give a decided advantage to the wicked. Do the traps ever end at weakening the populace at every possible level?

--Markvd 21:01, 13 September 2010 (BST)

Jamesm said ...

This is probably the most thorough and accurate explanation of the effects of cannabis that I have ever read. I am an ex-user of cannabis, both hash-hish and marijuana. Hash-hish (resin) most of the time though. I was fortunate to resist psychological dependency and never upgraded to heroin or other hard drugs except for LSD (which I have also tried several times in small doses). I've heard some horror stories about LSD though, like having terrifying hallucinations.

--Jamesm 23:48, 13 September 2010 (BST)

Bigfoot said ...

I have to work with people who do Hashish, and to say it can be unnerving to be around them because they change their moods and thoughts from hot to cold. Yet they obviously don't perceive there doings as abnormal behavior.

--Bigfoot 05:09, 14 September 2010 (BST)

Benjamin Stevens said ...

The thing I like most about this article is that Meier never really flat out says to the reader, "Don't use soft drugs!" He simply explains all of the negative side effects, which are very numerous, indeed, and then basically leaves it to the reader to decide what to do. Of course, after one reads all of the negative side effects, I can’t imagine how one would want to start using soft drugs if he or she hasn’t already done so. Hopefully, if one who is already using soft drugs reads this, he or she will make every effort to take the next logical step of quitting.

I was asked to translate the sections on hashish by someone who was once caught up in it and who has now successfully stopped using the drug. This person, like me, hopes that this article will cause users to quit and non-users never to get involved.

--βενιαμιν 13:47, 14 September 2010 (BST)

Zameen said ...

All I have to say is: "dude, where's my car man?"

--Zameen 18:10, 14 September 2010 (BST)

Alive said ...

I have some friends who use cannabis twice or three times a week. They are easy to get upset if they face different opinions about something which they think they know well. That is the negative effect of cannabis use that I notice so far. I don't think it degrades the user's ability to memorize and analyze or slows the user's mind down, it just makes the user feels that he is being attacked by people who have different opinions.

---- M -- 18:30, 15 September 2010 (BST)

AlienUFO said ...

I wonder what FIGU would say about medical Marijuana and cases of people having been cured of cancer for using medical Marijuana. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis

Also about the new evidence that Marijuana might stimulate brain cell growth: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8155-marijuana-might-cause-new-cell-growth-in-the-brain.html

Please Note: I am not referring to Hashish, I'm referring to Marijuana/Cannabis.

--AlienUFO 21:56, 22 September 2010 (BST)

RemR said ...

For myself, I felt like it was time to put an end to the horribly bad, mind-crippling money-wasting, time-eating and motivation-killing habit of smoking marijuana, after having studied the Meier material and the available spiritual teachings in English for about 3 years. It (marijuana) just simply wasn't for me, and I knew it for a long time, but I just couldn't stop.

I finally decided to search the German FIGU site for articles pertaining to the matter, to see what Mr. Meier himself had to say about the matter. This took place after a while of basically not wanting to hear what he was going to say because I pretty much knew that, whatever it was, his view was probably not going to be in favor, and I wasn't ready to hear it at the time.

I found Bulletins 48 and 67 on http://www.figu.org/ch/ and immediately translated them into English on Google translate. This decision absolutely changed my life, because it fueled me with the inspiration to seriously consider my actions in a pensive and meaningful way. A few days later, on August 16, 2010, I just decided that I was done and that I wouldn’t use marijuana ever again. Just like that. This occurred after smoking it nearly every day for approximately 5 ¾ years (but with the growing inner urge to stop for about 3 years).

After a couple more days of knowing my commitment was real and true, I subsequently emailed Benjamin Stevens with the request that he translate these two FIGU bulletins into the English language for other interested parties to read. To my joy, he emailed me back on September 10 with the response that he would translate them shortly, as he needed a change of pace.

It has now been 7 months since I quit, thanks to the insight I gained from these two bulletins, which were “the straw that broke the camels back.”

I greatly appreciate Benjamin Stevens for translating FIGU bulletins 48 and 67 on my request, and for his translation efforts in general. Thank you, Benjamin. Just the same, I am also especially grateful to Mr. “Billy” Eduard Albert Meier for his exhaustive and thorough job in accepting and fulfilling his Mission for humanity on earth and beyond, and for all of the immensely valuable information he has made available through his efforts.

--RemR 05:07, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Benjamin Stevens said ...

You're very welcome, Rem.

It is encouraging to know that some of the choices I make, with regard to specific texts that I choose to translate, have a positive and lasting effect on some who read them. This is why I somewhat regularly try to fulfill the translation requests of readers, especially when a subject matter appears to be of importance to a large audience.

--βενιαμιν 12:43, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Sanjin said ...

AlienUFO, have you seen this study:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/06/02/us-marijuana-brain-idUSN0227147420080602

--Sanjin 16:39, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

D S said ...

After reading of all the horrors of cannabis and hashish, I still missed the part of the discussion which justifies jailing people for cannabis. None of the putative evils of cannabis justify arresting people, imprisoning people, stealing their property and (literally) enslaving them. (Or shooting them, should they resist.)

This is the crux of the matter: justify the Rightness of police guns and prisons against cannabis users, if you are able.

On the other hand, if you can't justify arresting people for hashish and putting them in prison (like they do all around the world), then plainly say so, please.

Arrests. Jail. Prison. These are the salient issues people have about cannabis where I come from. And yet, these are the very things that somehow get ignored so often when talking about cannabis. Why is that?

--Doug Snead 22:17, 22 August 2011 (BST)

RemR said ...

The article is just simply about cannabis and its real effects, not the laws associated with it. I remember reading Semjase talking about our laws, that they were so illogical and inhumane to her that she was getting tired of their study. She said that somewhere between 90 and 95 percent of them were at least constructed wrongly and many of those were inhumane, if I remember correctly. She gave a percentage calculation of those, of which I do not remember the exact number, unfortunately.

--RemR 03:09, 23 August 2011 (BST)

Doug Snead said ...

Thanks for the clarification.

re: "She said that somewhere between 90 and 95 percent of them were at least constructed wrongly and many of those were inhumane"

That sounds about right to me.

Corruptisima republica plurimae leges.

In the US, most laws seem downright predatory.

There is, effectively, a government class - and the rest of us (those the US Government/Corporations treats as enemies: US citizens, and most everyone else).

It certainly feels as if the vast majority of US laws are used as means of preying on the people, and as tools to steal their wealth and property.

--Doug Snead 23:16, 21 September 2011 (BST)