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This brain dead explanation needs further details. I find that since we are not fully there yet spiritually as a planet, does that mean we are partially dead and awaiting a true place to call home due to the many roller coaster belief systems. I am going to practice my zombie walking style for maximum effect. j/k If one does not live in truth can one really be alive. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Positive or negative are the same when they recombine into one or the whole. The human has prejudice into believing that one is pos or neg and not the same. They truly are equal. You will not reincarnate as only negative or only positive/male only/ female only but as neutral positive to suit evolution and progress of spirit.
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Positive or negative are the same when they recombine into one or the whole. The human has prejudice into believing that one is pos or neg and not the same. They truly are equal. You will not reincarnate as only negative or only positive/male only/ female only but as neutral positive to suit evolution and progress of spirit.
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The positive and the negative are for the material side of Creation so that learning towards perfection is possible and so striving in life can be a learning process and the human being can control each day and celebrate each day in logic and knowledge and wisdom. In time as the everlasting present time evolves ahead the Sohar can start to shine in ones inner and outer world and the right way to live becomes visible to the consciousness and the health of the human being's psyche returns to what was lost eons ago when we lived for the spirit.
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I am commenting on 'The basic personality is based on what the Spiritform needs to learn, which means that certain experiences are required to gain a certain knowledge. The gender of the new body is not selected in a conscious manner or by decision in the previous life, it is a natural process invoked by the whole of Spiritual evolution, and what kind of knowledge needs to be gained and which gender is most fit, male (positive) or female (negative),' from the Evolution in the Spiritual Realm section because I had ''an Aha! moment''... A 'male' must learn about positiveness. A 'female' must learn about negativity.
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(And thank you, Stephen Moore, for adding this article by Jacob Smits, as my seeking to understand the Comprehensive Consciousness Block guided me here.)
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jamie said ...

why would male be considered positive and female negative?

--jamie 06:20, 24 April 2010 (BST)

Bigfoot said ...

The female is positive and the male is negative.likewise magnetism has positive and negative which are attracted to each other.The laws of nature prevent chain reactions by neutralizing electrostatic charges of electrons because static electricity has positive and negative also.Lightning is an example of a chain reaction that is neutralized because the discharge recombines back to pos and neg attracted to each other.These charges combine together to create a neutral condition.Perhaps a neutral positive state.The laws of nature attract to keep order.A good experiment is to toss a magnet towards another magnet and watch them attract and combine together.They rarely repel the other magnet away far enough to prevent attraction.Humans can attract or repel likewise.

--Bigfoot 09:02, 24 April 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

Do I have to answer this ? Extension for males and voided area for ladies. :) j/k I would like to know as well because this sounds like trouble. Women might be questioning why they have to be the chosen negative ones.

--Mark 12:21, 24 April 2010 (BST)

Sara said ...

What happens to those people like serial killers & people who have committed terrible crimes...what happens to their spirits.How long would it take for them to recarnate.

--Sara 10:17, 30 April 2010 (BST)

Jamesm said ...

Sara the same amount of time as for everyone since after death, the personality is dissolved after being "aggregated" and stored permanently.

Thats one reason why the death sentence should be abolished as the personality needs time to reflect upon its crimes and resolve them before death.

--Jamesm 23:31, 30 April 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

Sara,

I know where you're coming from and yes it is unfair for these degenerates, like murders, rapists, serial killers, child pedophiles, tyrants who prey on others and killing them after satisfying their lusts.

The victim's life cycle are short circuited, they experience such barbaric acts of violence and abuse of power, yet the powers to be "stand in silence"

Yet, creational laws are enacted equally as far as re-incarnation is concerned, the victim's spirit how has been handicapped and now needs additional time to catch up in the next incarnation.

Depending exclusively on creational laws alone, DOES NOT address this degenerative acts, but if the "powers to be", utilized their logic and get involved, they will not only bring resolution to the less evolved intelligences, but also elevate their spiritual development as well.

How can this be done, one would ask? It has already been done by the Plejarens and others when they rounded those that were threatening Earth humans from Billy's mission, however the other more advanced Beings are still needed, if they will only commit as Nokodemjon has done.

That is to prevent further re-incarnation for the abusers, isolation from further interferences of a naturally evolutionary stages and to "impulse" those with the necessary "experiences" of both negative/positive in order for these degenerates to have a free will of choices by these experiences in their current state (not wait for the next reincarnation), so that they can have another chance to make good and promote those that have been injured.

It is most logical, humane and accelerates the process of evolution for both the abusers and abused, which was set back on numerous occasions on Earth, yet in pass times those that were in power "remained in silence".

Those in power, know what the solutions are and we don't need to clarify this to them, it is their free will to do so.

--Hawaiian 00:26, 1 May 2010 (BST)

BraveKnight said ...

There has to be a way to get mankind on earth to finally become aware of,adhere to,and evolve from,the true TRUTH of ages. :(

--BraveKnight 18:38, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

BraveKnight,

Yes, there is a way, round up these tyrants and ship them off to a desolate planet to contemplate their demise! After all, before you plant your crops, you must first detoxify the ground and provide the necessary nutrients in order to maintain stability for evolutionary development.

--Hawaiian 19:55, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Memo said ...

Hello, as i understand it, Jmmanuel wasn´t afraid of dying as he knew he would survive, but his body began to tremble because he would have to suffer great pain and suffering.

It was asked in the Forum to Billy if there existed spirit forms in the pure spirit levels at the beginning of the universe and he said: " All levels, from Arahat Athersate to Petale, are fully existing and „working“ from the beginning. They are not „empty“, but „stocked“ with spirit-energetic forces/powers (geistesenergetische Kräfte), i.e. the basic forms are available/prepared. "

It is my understanding that Billy´s spiritform was the first in the universe to reach the Arahat Athersata level, but in this lifetime he has received messages from the Petale level. How does that work? I don´t know. Also i ignore what would be the main differences from "geistesenergetische Kräfte" and our spirit forms.

Salome

--Memo 21:52, 16 May 2011 (BST)

Markvd said ...

This brain dead explanation needs further details. I find that since we are not fully there yet spiritually as a planet, does that mean we are partially dead and awaiting a true place to call home due to the many roller coaster belief systems. I am going to practice my zombie walking style for maximum effect. j/k If one does not live in truth can one really be alive. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

--Markvd 04:32, 13 August 2011 (BST)

Bigfoot said ...

Positive or negative are the same when they recombine into one or the whole. The human has prejudice into believing that one is pos or neg and not the same. They truly are equal. You will not reincarnate as only negative or only positive/male only/ female only but as neutral positive to suit evolution and progress of spirit.


--Bigfoot 06:00, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Bigfoot said ...

Positive or negative are the same when they recombine into one or the whole. The human has prejudice into believing that one is pos or neg and not the same. They truly are equal. You will not reincarnate as only negative or only positive/male only/ female only but as neutral positive to suit evolution and progress of spirit.


--Bigfoot 06:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Bigfoot said ...

The positive and the negative are for the material side of Creation so that learning towards perfection is possible and so striving in life can be a learning process and the human being can control each day and celebrate each day in logic and knowledge and wisdom. In time as the everlasting present time evolves ahead the Sohar can start to shine in ones inner and outer world and the right way to live becomes visible to the consciousness and the health of the human being's psyche returns to what was lost eons ago when we lived for the spirit.


--Bigfoot 05:07, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Ulena said ...

I am commenting on 'The basic personality is based on what the Spiritform needs to learn, which means that certain experiences are required to gain a certain knowledge. The gender of the new body is not selected in a conscious manner or by decision in the previous life, it is a natural process invoked by the whole of Spiritual evolution, and what kind of knowledge needs to be gained and which gender is most fit, male (positive) or female (negative),' from the Evolution in the Spiritual Realm section because I had an Aha! moment... A 'male' must learn about positiveness. A 'female' must learn about negativity.

(And thank you, Stephen Moore, for adding this article by Jacob Smits, as my seeking to understand the Comprehensive Consciousness Block guided me here.)


--Ulena 22:02, 25 January 2012 (UTC)